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doleniel

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*Noting comments in posts above* Hmm, there seems to be some confusion about my religion. I am Wiccan, and I am a pantheist, but I have a hobby of learning as much as I can about other religions. My comments about Jesus were made from the point of view of a very religious Christian friend of mine. I personally do believe that it is our job to get the world to love each other, that no one else can do it for us.

Tinuviel, I completely agree with you on your comment about there being people who believe in and worship the Christian God that are not themselves Christian. I have a friend who is a lso Wiccan, but she believes only in God and just does not agree with alot of the Bible.

I heard something that I thought rather ironic in my town's ceremonies this morning. The pastor they had speaking was talking about the war in Iraq and he said something along the lines of "as long as we continue to trust in God and honor Him he will protect our soldiers and bring us victory." Now wht I find ironic is that The God the Muslims in Iraq worship is the exact same god. What does everyone else think on this?

Khamul, I sympathize with you on the computer thing, that has happened to me several times.
 
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Good point on the War thing. That is kind of Ironic isn't it? But how can god protect people? And if he is so good at protecting them why do we still have soldier's dying?
 

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Khamul....my computer has eaten it's fair share of long posts, that I could never quite recreate,as well. That bites.
 
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I always find it ironic that we believe that God is on someone's side... like at sporting events, when the coaches or whoever pray for a victory. Why would God care about that sort of thing? He cares about all of humanity. He doesn't want us to kill each other, he wants us all to be treated equally and that competition of any kind, war, sports, etc. and using him as a factor is just plain silly. What is wrong with us?

I personally believe that there is only one God. Every religion is based on this one god. In my opinion, polytheistic people worship different parts of one god. All the monotheistic people believe in teh same god just by a different name. All the major "characters" if you will of these religions, be it muslim, christianity, orthodox, all of them probably are important figures in a particular religion but they probably also important in god's plan for the world to make it better... I hope that makes sense?! :)
 

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*nodnod* It makes sense.

The whole war thing...I think it's pretty ridiculous when they go about saying they do the things they do in the name of God or something. I mean, I think that's just the biggest excuse of all time, in most cases. Humans are selfish creatures, and which side is going to admit they are wrong?
 

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*PHEW* Just read about 90% of all thoose posts. And now its my opinion time. !grammer!

First of I think the bible is the best ficitonal book ever. Yes a man named Jesus might have lived 2000 years ago and yes he might have performed a few tricks, an early Daivd Blaine if you will, but we only have prove that he lived. What we dont have is prove of him perfoming mircales.

As for God, well if he is supposed to be protecting us why does he let people die in wars etc.

Love is the most powerful emotion we have, it can destroy you or make you feel great.

But besides all that............As long as there is hope in mankind there will be life no matter which religion you follow (if any).

Lets hope our differences can be sorted out for our childrens sake.
 
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With life there is death, so why should God allow someone to live if he is sinning? It is said in the 10 commandments that we should love our neighbors as ourselves adn thou shalt not kill. So you shouldn't blame him for letting people die in wars and what not. It is the fault of man and their free will. God's protection isn't from death. God protects us in his own way that we cannot fully fathom. It just needs to be accepted, if that makes any sense.
 
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I see your point. Clearly. And I also like the whole why should someone live if they are sinning bit. Interesting approach. Very interesting. But what is the protection that God supposedly gives us?
 
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faith and hope for a better tomorrow.... sounds like a cheesy insurance ad doesn't it? but I mean it.
 
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Good friggin answer. Even though it does sound like an insurance ad. Turn off the TV! hehe. Anyways, that is a good answer and I can see why he might do that. But faith in what? Hope for what? What's is a better tomorrow?
 
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One that is peaceful, where we don't have to deal with the bs that our countries, nationalities, beliefs, denominations, etc. throw at us on a daily basis. You know what I'm talking about... the things that say "I'm doing this in the name of God and so should you." And "this is a holy war" and "killing people in a misunderstood country will make things better for the world." None of that stuff makes the world a better place. It makes it more of a war zone. Without all of that, there will be "peace on earth" (sorry I had to say it) and people will be getting along. At one point in time that was the case and we should be striving for that rather than destroy with the rest of the world. Again, I hope that makes sense.
 
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Makes total sense. Thanks for asnwering my questions. Good Points. As for you Doylie. I dunno I guess I am used to your no brain responses. hehe. Although you bring a good point to the table about not knowing if Jesus really existed.
 

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OK, I just skimmed/read this whole thread.

To start off, I'm a Christian.

I'd like to clear up something that I noted in this thread. The word "religion" has been used often in reference to Christianity. Christianity is not a religion (usually classified as a set up of do's and don'ts having to do with some higher power), it's a relationship. God came to earth as Jesus and gave up his life as a sacrifice so we could be with Him forever. That's the "protection" referred to earlier by Dragonfly. Protection of our souls; eternity with Him.

Also to clear up something I don't think has been touched yet, but sometimes causes confusion. There are different denominations of Christians, who believe different things about the Bible. I don't think those differing beliefs (including methods of baptism and such) need to be discussed here. If anyone wants to, we can start another thread.

In future apology, I know I'm not a very good debater, so please bear with me.
 

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Well you know me boom Im like Cid from FF7 I'll bring up a point without thinking too much about it. But to hope for a better tommorow and a brighter future, I think for now we place too much trust in blind faith.
 
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And doyler throws the wrench into the mix. Also Gud call religion whatever the hell you want to call it either way it is kind of messed up if you look at the big picture.
 

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