Would you save the dog or the human?

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  1. Lord Yuan

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    Yes because he could still do good for people who do good for animals or other people or nature or anything. There is more of a probability that a person will do anything more useful than a single animal, and if not it was still worth the bet because at the worst a person would just go on to do nothing of significance just as the animal would.
     
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    ... the person has my complete attention, I save him or her first... if circumstances allow, I go in after the dog. I can't imagine any self-respecting cat ever finding itself in such a position.
    And if the person is just lying there unconscious after I've saved them, well... then I rifle through their belongings and take some money. Hey, that's the duality life. Seems we only get saved so something else bad can happen to us.;)
     
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    hmmmm. i'm not so sure for me.
    I no longer have pets, my dog having been put down due to very bad health a few yrs ago, and the loss has left me wishing she was still around.
    i don't particularly like people anyway, and knowing JD she'd have probably been in the water trying to help and the douche had pulled her under.
    I'd save my dog. 1st time, everytime.
     
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    Human. The human life is worth more than a dog's. Simple as that
     
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    That of course depends upon how you measure the value of life in itself. An interesting question since life isn't quantitative. Or at least its not easy to put life into a barchart to graph and compare next to others.
     
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    agreed OR.
    the way i judge life is how much joy does said life bring, well, in her 16 yrs JD gave everything she had to protect me and my family, she loved unconditionally, humans do not. therefore JD> some random human i do not know.
     
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    Being a lay respondor I would save the human if for no other reason than I'd know what to do with the human after reaching shore. Afterall, if they've started drowning before I've gotten there they'll need a bit of extra help. The dog I wouldn't be able to help much.
     
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    People quantify life all the time through money, IQ, and aptitude tests. Comparing the potential value of a single dog life versus a single human life assumes that the person could be worth less than a dog.

    Then you have to think about how your biases go into the problem. Jim loves his dog so he would save the dog, but if somebody lost a family member to drowning they would probably save the human so another person doesn't have to suffer that.

    Lifespans are quantifiable too, if you can do good for only 20 years is it worth as much as somebody who can do good for 60 years? I just don't want people to trick themselves into thinking all life is equal, sure all life is inter-dependent but some things have fleeting or minimal value.
     
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    The difference is that a dog has a very limited capacity to feel empathy. If you came upon a drowning person and their dog, you save the person, not because you've suffered a similar tragedy... but because you put yourself in the position of someone who is likewise drowning.
     
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    *Just sits back and observes*
    Just as planned.
     
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    If I absolutely knew both were drowning I'd of course try to save both but I'd go for the human first, probably for the same reason as Sparrow mentioned. I have no idea what a cat would be doing out there drowning though. I'm not so fond of cats. Well, I enjoy them like one enjoys strangers.
    Also, I'd have to consider the possibility of explaining to the authorities why I brought ashore a cat that scratched my face off whilst gasping for breath back to dry land instead of that poor lady!
     
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    That's one of the best comments I've ever read regarding cats... I'm also not a "cat person", but I have a certain respect for them when our paths cross, and enjoy their presence as they slink around like unwanted guests.
     
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    Yes, it's like tolerating ghosts in a way. ;)
     
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    in all honesty, if it were indeed my pet, I'd rescue that first because I'd be wonderingwhy someone was drowning with it? maybe they tried stealing it? Plus I'd still jump into the water to save the person after as people can be resuscitated. I'm no expert but I did learn something when I did my surf life saving as a youngan'

    upon saying that... if the person was a 3-breasted super hot model.. I might go straight for that! haha.. unless her breasts acted like a flotation device..
     
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    If my pet were drowning next to a human I did not know. I would go for my pet. I value the creatures I love higher than creatures I do not love.
     
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    I'd rescue my pet, or any animal first. I like animals more than humans.
     
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    I'd rescue the animal before the human, also, shouldn't it technically be said that there are two animals out there in the water drowning? We humans are still animals, whether or not you choose to believe it.
     
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    For me it all depends on the circumstances. So I am not sure which I would go for.
     
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    If it was my pet, I'd rescue it above the human if they were a stranger
    Animals are more likely to be your friend for life after such an incident
    I get along with animals better than humans
    And my love of animals would win out
    If I had time I'd go back for the human
     
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    The human. The man or woman my have children that need them. even if the dog had puppies most likely they are not raising them.
     
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