Why is murder wrong?

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  1. OrcShaman

    OrcShaman Star Trek addict

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    This may come as a shock, but murder is right ... because we make it so. "It was self-defence"; "he was sentenced to death so we had to execute him"; "they were the enemy, we just did our job"; "heretics must burn"; "all black people deserve to die" (NO OFFENSE MEANT , JUST TRYING TO MAKE A POINT); "jews are evil, let's exterminate them" (AGAIN TRIYNG TO MAKE A POINT). Does this ring a bell?
     
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    It dosnt, it never did- thats why wars start, thats why human beings are incapable of total harmony. Its the inability to accept or even acknowlege the beliefs of another culture. Which to me isnt wrong...how can one accept something as harsh as terrorism???
     
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    btw...sorry for barging in....im new...can someone help me...i dont no how to put on a pict. or a quote
     
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    oh and that comment i made about human nature an what not- sorry it has nothing to do with anything- i thought i was replying to a comment on a whole different page. Sorry- its my first day.
     
  5. Anduril

    Anduril Flame of the West

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    Not unless you're talking about the lonely old man in Topeka.
     
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    You lost me there. What old man?
    Anyway, what i was trying to say is that we allways find excuses for our deeds, even for an act such as murder. We pretend it's never wrong to kill a fellow human by invoqueing laws, politics, religion and so on
     
  7. WarpedTower

    WarpedTower Ferahgo the Assassin

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    You are taking the life of someone. If you kill someone you make other people suffer "If you take a life of someone you destroy the world of another, if you save a life of another you save someone's world" I think that is how it goes.

    When you kill someone you not only destroy other people's world but think of the preson you murdered stop them from having another joy like christmas and stuff. The preson you kill will have no more joy he/she you killed will only have joy again in another body.

    I have something else to say. The bible says "Thy shall not kill" right? well when someone kills another and gets the death sentence who pays for killing that person? I mean if you kill someone in death sentence do you go to H E LL?

    Hey, do I get a point for my thoughts or what?=)
     
  8. Anduril

    Anduril Flame of the West

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    It would be more accurate to say "You shall not murder". The King James Version from the renaissance says, "Thou shalt not kill." But that is not to say that the KJV is inaccurate. Words change over time. The word "sober" used to mean a person was clear thinking; now it means he is not intoxicated. The original hebrew word meaning is more like our word for murder instead of just killing.
     
  9. kartaron

    kartaron Hunter / Gatherer

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    The confusing translation has been corrected in recent versions. NKJV, NIV etc.

    I believe this has been corrected at least a dozen times in the debate threads. Im suprised it comes up so often given that there are numerous people in the Bible commissioned by God with the task of executing offenders.
     
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    Ya see, that is where I believe I see eye to eye with you, I mean say someone killed my brother or sister...what could they expect? a pat on the back? Honestly, find me someone who has never sinned per se.
     
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    I will have to agree with you also, I am white, I will automatically be able to relate to let's say other whites. it is just how i am. I also think that it is not just a black and white thing (as someone has already stated) because if someone attacked me, then I would not just let them go through with it without doing something to prevent it i.e. self-defense.
     
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    I am definintly not on the side of the terrorists, and I believe they should be killed or captured, but I believe that the ones who were on the planes thought that what they were doing was right, and the only ones who are truly evil are the ringleaders who abuse the beliefs of religious muslims and twist their religious ideals to where up is down and down is up.
     
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    murder is wrong.period!
     
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    Just kill the Sons Of B****es the second you see em" :faceit: :faceit:
     
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    it's all about which side you're on. because of human blindness, the terrorists think that they're on the good side, but we think they're evil. there are two ways to look at every concept. it is my belief that murder is the slaying of innocents who are utterly helpless and can do nothing to fight back. but I also believe that murder does not exist during war. what one side does to the other will be no worse than what the other side does to this.
     
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    Well, from what I know, Bin Laden is pretty sure that what he is doing is right. But what is it that makes us right and them wrong (on this specific matter)?