Discussion in 'Books' started by Nienor, Oct 16, 2003.
nope, seven parts. 5 down, two to go...
Cool! I've read em all so far and thought there was only one more left....but 2 more bookks? Good stuff. I hope they're thick chunky books!
I agree in the main part with Turambar.
Let's look at the options:
1. Dumbledore's trusting fool.
2. Dumbledore has some sort of hold over Snape.
Again, not likely, Dumbledore's not that kind of guy.
3. He believes Snape is so grateful to him for something in the past/so scared of Voldemort that he won't betray them.
Not likely, Dumbleode's smart enough not to put his trust in the gratitude of a committed Death Eater, nor in the fear in which they hold him.
4. He knows Snape won't betray them because he's seen into his heart and knows him to be good.
No way of telling just yet, but unlikely.
5. Snape came to him for help/advice just after he joined the Death Eaters, when he knew he was in over his head/that they were truly evil and not just playing around OR Dumbledore went to him when he found he had joined. Dumbledore counselled him and asked him to be a Double Agent. Snape is keeping up the pretense/naturally unpleasant (he was a Slytheryn himself after all...)/has a grudge against Harry and Gryffindor.
5 1/2. This could fit in with 4 or 5. Dumbledore has some sort of magical device that showed Snape's true self/revealed the future to him. I can just see him standing aghast in front of a huge mirror with Dumbledore behind him patting him on the shoulder and offering a few sage words, as he has with Harry so many times. In fact, that could be another reason Snape dislikes Harry, he's jealous of his relationship with Dumbledore, perhaps Harry usurped that place from Snape.
Which leads on to the final (loony) theory:
6. Snape is actually Dumbledore's son.
Dumbledore does have a good reason to trust Snape, he just refuses to discuss it. In GoF, Harry finds the Pensieve, and sees that Snape was a Death Eater. When he asks Dumbledore why he trusts him, he replies "That, Harry, is a matter between Professor Snape and myself."
Read book 6, though I'm sure you all are, or have. Answered the question pretty good.
Yep, same here Isengard. Totally answered it.
Ok, PLEASE start a 'Half-Blood Prince Spoiler' thread or confine yourselves to the 'Impressions of Book 6' thread, otherwise I'm going to have to avoid the Harry Potter Forum altogether, some of us won't get it for a while and Really don't want it ruined... You've already pretty much blown one of the biggest suspense items in the book...
Sorry. Though JKR stated that it would be all cleared up.
We did not say how though.
How long until you get it Unraveller?
.......sad in side!!
the question remains tho. I couldn't find a satisfactory answer, not even the one Harry states at the end. Maybe the matter is cleared, but I have the feeling we haven't had the last of it...
I totally agree..I sure hope that wasn't the only answer
I had some interesting thoughts about this, but since it's rather spoiler-ritch, I think it's better to dedicate a new post to it...
he but he truly despised his father.
Sorry, missed this. I've been staying away from this forum until I get it.
If I'm lucky, a couple of weeks (when my brother arrives). If not, maybe a month or two. Not happy at all...
i personally think snape will carry on where dumbledore left off ... i think they will meet wen harry goes to see his parents graves as i think snape was in love wid harry's mum which would make sense and why he was shocked and came to the good side after tom ( voldermort) killed her and has told dumbledore that but hey im sure she will make everythn clear is the last book jus hope she hurries up
My gut feeling is that Snape and Dumbledore made an unbreakable vow with each other at some point.But,this could get into spoilers,so I won't go any further.
I think he trusted Snape because i think that it was Snape that found Harry. I think he tried to warn Harry's parents, but didn't get there in time. I think he found the Potters dead, and brought baby Harry to Dumbledore. I haven't read Book 1 so i dont know if it covered this info or not.
dumbeldore believes in this reformation of everyone, but snape was STILL with voldemort.
Still, the unbreakable vow is magic in it's darkest form. I'd say it's right up there with horcruxes. Not too sure Albus would go at those lengths to make sure Snape is to trust. Still, the old geezer surprised us before...
And to add, Albus doesn't believe Death is the worst thing one can come across. I don't think he'd trust the power of of the Unbreakable Vow. He'd rather trust people and their word and friendship...
That's still not certain. I still believe (quite strongly) that Snape is one of the good guys.
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