Who's Better?

Discussion in 'Final Fantasy' started by Marche2, Mar 10, 2004.

  1. Franker

    Franker New Member

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    Okay. That's not our fault. You feel Zidane is cooler than Cloud. That's not happening and your mad. Maybe you could change your decision or something? The hell do i know? We all like Cloud, and you like Zidane. So that sucks...your the minority, get used to it.
     
  2. Strider

    Strider Eccentric

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    Alright, look everyone is free to their own opinion. You guys obviously aren't going to persuade each other and it's just going to lead to insults so why doesn't everyone just agree to disagree?
     
  3. Elan Morin Tedronai

    Elan Morin Tedronai The Forsaken

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    I don't agree to that, its no fun.
     
  4. AcrobaticHippo

    AcrobaticHippo Determined

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    Come on,everyone,it's not fair if everyone else contests aginst one!

    I have an idea.First,everyone picks Cloud or Zidane according to their wishes,then after one round we switch.This is fair and we'll be able to sharpen our debating skills and get better at justification :)
     
  5. Marche2

    Marche2 Master Assain/ninja

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    Why me? well if your not going to agree to disgree than Jnanees idea it is and like I said before no insults or else grr *sobs* why me?
     
  6. Franker

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    I wasn't insulting jnanene(if thats how you spell it). I'm just trying to get my point across. In my opinion, i don't agree with your proposal.I think if you switch after every round, you would sound like your contradicting yourself.
     
  7. Strider

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    If you guys are insisting on this than I think Jnanee's idea is a good one. If you can't look at both sides than you shouldn't be choosing one.
     
  8. Franker

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    I can agree with jnaneene but I don't want to see her views. I personally feel Cloud is more of a deeper, more complex person. If you were to meet him in reality, he'd be really cool. Zidane would be cool, but a bit of a whinny individual.
     
  9. Elan Morin Tedronai

    Elan Morin Tedronai The Forsaken

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    Zidane's the kind of person you'd talk to for 5 seconds, then have to smack him over the head and tell him to stop his whinging. Nothing serious would ever get spoken about and it'd just be like hanging around with an immature, younger sibling.

    Cloud on the other hand is a mature, complex and deep individual. His ability to lead others and his bravery make him an all round admirable person.
     
  10. AcrobaticHippo

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    Well if you don't want to see my views then it's a narrow-minded decision,because you keep sticking to your own views and don't open up to others' opinions.
     
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    Well,Zidane is not immature,or else he wouldn't have survived the whole adventure in the first place.

    Besides,Zidane is the type of person who opens up to other people and bonds with them (like he does to Vivi,Freya and Garnet) and he also gives people like Amarant a chance.He's also very tolerant of Steiner,who keeps in whining and complaining.

    Cloud,on the other hand,is just a guy who stays inside his own shell and allows his problems to get the better of him.And you think that's COOL???
     
  12. Elan Morin Tedronai

    Elan Morin Tedronai The Forsaken

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    Im opening to your opinion Jnanee, i just don't agree with you. And your gonna have a hard time convincing me too.
     
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    I don't agree with your points either,so I'm not gonna give up so easily :D
     
  14. Elan Morin Tedronai

    Elan Morin Tedronai The Forsaken

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    Well, its clear either of us are gonna change our mind, so whats the point in arguing any longer ?
     
  15. Marche2

    Marche2 Master Assain/ninja

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    first off stop being so naroww minded 2nd there is no point so enough already
     
  16. AcrobaticHippo

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    So,Elan,what do you say to my rebuttal in post #91?
     
  17. Elan Morin Tedronai

    Elan Morin Tedronai The Forsaken

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    Cloud stays in his shell for a reason, he doesn't want to hurt others and is protecting himself. After all, he only just met most of the group, and he's ashamed. I would be too, its part of his growth as a character that he overcomes this, and this growth makes him well-respected and loved by Avalanche and the rest of the group. Cloud shows himself to be a true leader and warrior.
     
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    So does Zidane!

    Zidane was careful not to hurt Vivi's feelings during the Dali event,and he also managed not to hurt anyone AND be cheerful at the same time.Also,Zidane overcomes the torturing thought that he is in fact actually a Genome,and the rest admired this and formed closer bonds with him.
     
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    Hello???No one seems to be posting..how sad,did you run out of ideas,everyone? :D
     
  20. Elan Morin Tedronai

    Elan Morin Tedronai The Forsaken

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    Noone seems to be posting cuz the threads dead.....
    .....and im sick of arguing, u dont believe me, i dont believe u, its a stalemate.