Who will go into the White House?

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Who will be the US prez?

  1. Obama

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  2. McCain

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  3. I don't like the idea of either Nobama or McWar to be prez... :S

    8 vote(s)
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    ...situation:

    Trapped foot under a boulder in the middle of a dry forest, fire headed your way, and no one else is around...

    Emergency?
     
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    And youre going to limp away from the fire with only one foot in time are you? thats it you made it 100ft before blood loss rendered you unconscious
     
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    ...if I had a few bandaids I'd be fine...
     
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    This is not the kind of thing to be joking around, if you try to perform a serious surgical procedure without being a trained surgeon and without the neccesary equipment youre going to kill someone.

    Pain and blood loss render you incapacitated to start with if you dont die outright, not to mention infection in the long term. This is why lay people shouldnt consider these things in anything but a life or death situation and amputation is practically never a solution in those cases.

    If you try, someone will die.

    Rememebr that and maybe someday your arrogance won't kill someone.
     
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    If it wasn't the time for jokes then what was this?

    also the situation given was a life or death situation. Maybe you should think a little more and next time your buddy is under a rock, you won't let him burn to death.
     
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    I was making a play on the word red, which is VERY different from using a joke to hide a negligent attitude towards medical care

    In the situation you describes amputation would end in death all the same, without proper tools you'd pass out from the pain, if not that then the bloodloss, unconscious people can't flee far.
     
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    So you wouldn't carry your friend away? You'd let him sit there?
     
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    Doesnt really imply that theres 2 people in the situation
     
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    but this does
     
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    Unless you have a surgical cauterisation tool the act of amputation alone is going to cause lethal blood loss in that kind of isolation.

    Not to mention you'd need a heavy saw to make it through bone.
     
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    not if the rock had pretty much turned the bone into dust
     
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    That kind of force would render amputation unneccesary.
     
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    unless the muscle, skin, and such had the leg attached to the rest of the body. I've seen that before.
     
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    Still doesnt account for the blood loss factor.
     
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    I think I'd rather take on a chance of death by blood loss rather than death by fire.
     
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    Did the idea 'GET HELP' ever occur to you?
     
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    hmmm...maybe IF

    1: you could find help in the middle of a forest

    2: you could get the help back before your friend is cooked
     
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    Easily a better option than almost certainly bleeding your friend to death.

    Better yet why not try and find a way out from under the boulder, digging? leverage?
     
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    Time is the element that makes both of those points null.
     
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    Amputation isnt exactly quick.