who or what is Tom Bombadil?

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  1. wanderingmagus

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    there's this japanese movie i'm sure you've all heard about, called TONARI NO TOTORO.

    Totoro is the god of the forest, but only of that forest, wherein he holds complete control. outside the forest, he and his helpers gradually become invisible and less and less tangible, until outside of the vicinity they probably disappear altogether.

    Tom may be quite similar to that.
     
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    That actually makes a lot of sense. Tom stayed in his forest because that's where he said he had power and he said that he would be no help in other places.
     
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    Firstly, I'm going to admit to skipping the 5 pages of stuff already here, so sorry if I repeat stuff.

    No one is really going to be right, Tolkien never told anyone who he really was supposed to be as far as I know.

    I think he's an embodiment of the Natural/rural world that Tolkien was so in love with. He represents the natural order and the way things are supposed to be.
     
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    Adam (and Goldberry is Eve- both are in their unfallen state)
    Aule(And Goldberry is Yavanna)
    A being thrown-up at the beginning of time
    The Brown Man
    The Chieftain of Birds
    The Christian concept of stewardship
    A daimonic being who lived before history
    A Dutch Doll
    The spirit of Ea itself
    Earth’s Gaia
    Eru
    Eru’s representative in ME
    An Enigma
    The FIsher KIng
    The Green Man
    The Jungian concept of the ’Original Man’
    The last Moorish King of Granada
    A Maia ’gone native’
    A Maia of Yavanna
    The last Maia to enter Ea
    A Merlin type figure
    The spirit of ME
    A nature spirit
    A nature sprite
    The embodiment of nature’s moral neutrality or ambiguity
    Embodies Nature’s pattern
    The Spirit of Nature
    A pre-existing spiritual being who became embodied as the spirit of nature
    The One
    Orome
    The Reader
    The opposite of Shelob but amoral
    A spontaneous generation from the land
    JRR Tolkien
    Tulkas
    Ulmo
    Uncle Tim’s nephew in The Root of the Boot in The Advenures of Tom Bombadil
    These are few of the thing Tom can be but I am not completely sure as to what he is...
    The one I found interesting was he was sentient embodiment of The One Ring but quite frankly I don't think that is the case cause the one didn't exist during Melko's time or the during first great migration of the elves.. I also don't know what a Brown man is if someone could tell me I'd really appreciate it...
     
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    I one spoke with an English TA about the possibility of Tom being a foil for Tolkien himself. Surely this will sound a bit overly academic but, considering the fact that Tolkien was very fond of nature, trees and the like, I always had this insight that when Frodo talked with Tom it was like he chatted with the author.The way Tom saved the hobbits from Old Man Willow also looks like Tolkien’s strolls through the parks hugging and talking to trees. Again, this is just an assumption of a literary theme/figure.
     
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    Tom might be the world itself, having his own place with all his powers and uncaring about the rest of all the things that go on outside.

    But I like the thought of Tom being Tolkien himself quite a lot...
     
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    "if such strength is in the earth itself"
     
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    "Old Tom Bombadil is a merry fellow;
    Bright blue his jacket is, and his boots are yellow."
     
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    "No-one's ever caught him yet, for Tom, he is the Master,
    His songs are stronger songs, and his feet are faster!"

    "I had forgotten about Bombadil, if indeed this is still the same that walked the woods and hills long ago, and even then was older than the old. That was not then his name. Iarwain Ben-adar we called him, oldest and fatherless. But many another name he has since been given by other folk: Forn by the Dwarves, Orald by Northern Men, and other names beside."

    "'Who are you, Master?' he asked.
    'Eh, what?' said Tom sitting up, and his eyes glinting in the gloom. 'Don't you know my name yet? That's the only answer. Tell me, who are you, alone, yourself and nameless? But you are young and I am old. Eldest, that's what I am. Mark my word, my friends: Tom was here before the river and the trees, Tom remembers the first raindrop and the first acorn. He made paths before the Big People, and saw the little People arriving. He was here before the Kings and the graves and the Barrow-Wights. When the Elves passed westward, Tom was here already, before the seas were bent. He knew the dark under the stars when it was fearless- before the Dark Lord came from Outside.'"