What is the point of a battle ready sword

Discussion in 'General Weapons & Armour' started by Halo's Hobbit, Jul 5, 2004.

  1. Orkin

    Orkin The Fighters Guide House Member

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    Good to see you here, John!
     
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    Also there is a distinct feel to a fully functional sword that no wall-hanger has. Only a battle ready sword has the feel that you could depend on it at need.
     
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    elrond243 The Fighters Guide House Member

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    well theres the bordum factor its probably safer if your home alone and you swinging a sword that is ment to be swung around. i**** is the japanese form a fencing exept not and i'm tacing a sword class thats the reason i have a battle ready sword.
     
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    I feel more comfortable with a sharp blade that I know won't break, in case I have to use it. Self defence man. If someone breaks into my house, I don't want to shoot them, i want them to live, minus a few body parts. If they can best me when I have a sword, then they deserve to be in my house.
     
  5. Mububban

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    Yeah that's a really smart attitude to have. Tell me what the judge makes of it at your hearing.
     
  6. Spartan058

    Spartan058 Linda

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    He probibally won't like it very much, but there is nothing he can do about it becuse US law protects me if I am defending my own home aginst unwelcome intrusion. :hackit:
     
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    Actually, unless you can prove they have intent to ijure you, what you will be doing is quite illegal. Just being inside your home isn't enough.
     
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    It depends largely on the state. But if you're in a state with a 'castle" law as oppsed to a "responsibility to flee" law and the intruder is armed in any way, you're pretty much set. It's still a better idea to either keep him unharmed till the cops come or put him out. Either way, the perpetrator isn't going to have much of a defense against you in court.

    Why battle ready swords? Why anything else? Why would you want to waste money on something that's completely useless?

    Why would you want a sword in the first place? Swords don't need ammo.
     
  9. Skyanide

    Skyanide The Big Meanie Staff Member

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    When was the last time you used your sword to kill someone?

    Swords are for killing, so unless you're using it to kill, it's still as useless as a wallhanger.
     
  10. The Man from Niefldarth

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    ah.... your'e right, but for people who use their swords for training?
     
  11. Skyanide

    Skyanide The Big Meanie Staff Member

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    You don't really need a fully functional sword to train, because when you spar you use blunted wasters for safety.

    The only thing you really use functional swords for training is for cutting.
     
  12. FireSnake

    FireSnake Bhaal Spawn

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    Just to correct a lot of people here if it as a straight edge sword and was used in midevil times against plate armor they were never sharpened because they would be blunt the next battle, so basically instead of cutting through something you are crishing through it. Ofcourse there are exceptions with curved swords wich are made epeacially for slicing, which makes them ideal if you are trying to slice something.
    As to having a battle ready sword, I have one sword and have a wooden stick just about as long as the sword but has metal weights in it to simulate the weight of the weapon and the balance of the weapon wich makes it a lot more safe, and also builds up the muscles in your forearms very well.
     
  13. Cudgel

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    um. You are wrong.
    IN the historical manuals that have been studied it clrealy shows that you use the POINT of the sword to THRUST into the GAPS of the armor. Hitting someone in armor with a sword relaly wont do much as die from blunt your sword. there are better waeposn for use against armor pollaxes and spears being very popular with knights and men at arms. The sword was a back up weapon in the age of plate.
     
  14. FireSnake

    FireSnake Bhaal Spawn

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    sorry didnt specify if wasnot used against plate it was a good pinpoint crushing weapon...break a few bones hehe.
     
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    Cudgel The name says it all

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    if you arent using it asint armor then why would you be using a sword as an impact weapon?
     
  16. FireSnake

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    pretty much to break bones, or inflict enough pain to put them in to submission
     
  17. FireSnake

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    thats what i heard from one of the blacksmiths i know
     
  18. Cudgel

    Cudgel The name says it all

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    you have been misinformed.
    A sword is a cutting weapon if you want an impact weapon use a club or a stick or a mace.
     
  19. Skyanide

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    Not in all cases -- The claymore was used more of a crushing weapon than to cut.
     
  20. Cudgel

    Cudgel The name says it all

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    and just where do you get this information?