We were all WRONG!!!!!!!!!

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  1. Elvenblademaster

    Elvenblademaster New Member

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    Well actually it was just Me Finrod and Dwarf tosser mostly. But this refers to the now closed thread of the Gilgalad's death, yes we got off topic and yes we got kinda crazy but we were all wrong. We all said that we hated the way that Gilgalad died, in fact I said "what kinda idiot would think that up oh I know PJ". We all thought that GG had died by being hit by saurons mace or sword or something like that but in the non-theater version he was lifted and set on fire by sauron, now we all thought that it was an outrage, a horrible unhonorable death for the elvenking and that Tolkien would never have written. But he did, and not in some faky non published note book either but right in the middle of FOTR. Here is the quote taken from "The Lord of the Rings, the fellowship of the ring, chapter the council of elrond. Gandalf is speaking and he either quotes or reads the scoll of Isildur. " It was hot when I first took it, hot as a glede, and my hand was scorched, so that I doubt if ever again I shall be free of the pain of it. Yet even as I write it is cooled, and it seemeth to shrink, though it loseth neither its beauty nor its shape. Already the writing upon it, which at first was as clear as red flame, fadeth and is now only barely to be read. It is fashioned in an elvenscript of Eregion, for they have no letter in Mordor for such subtle work; but the language is unknown to me. I deem it to be a tongue of the Black Land, since it is foul and uncouth. What evil it saith I do not know; but I trace here a copy of it, lest it fade beyond recall. The Ring misseth, maybe, the heat of Sauron's hand, which was black and yet burned like fire, and so Gil-galad was destroyed; and maybe were the gold made hot again, the writing would be refreshed"............................. Well there it is straight fro JRRT himself, we were wrong and I appologize for my ignorance.
     
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    Radagast Art House Member

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    We all make mistakes, I wouldn't sweat over it to much...
     
  3. Curufeanor

    Curufeanor Master Noldori Elvensmith

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    I still think it should have made it in the EE.... maybe PJ has something in store for LOTR in the future... (hint-hint whilst shoving PJ in the shoulder to listen to us !!!)
     
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    byzantine warrior Autokratos Konstantinou

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    oops i was there with you guys EBM i cant believe it but it also says in the sil that gilgalad and elendil wrestle with eachother hmmm something to think about
     
  5. Elvenblademaster

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    No, they wrestled together AGAINST sauron......
     
  6. dwarf tosser

    dwarf tosser "What the Deuce?"

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    So i was right? Gil Galad was infact set on fire. I never said anything about how Gil gAlad was to great a king who recieved a terrible death for that i was just very upset that PJ didnt put it in the movie.

    -dt
     
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    byzantine warrior Autokratos Konstantinou

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    oops i meant sauron stupid me ah well cant be right all the time maybe when GG and EL were fughting sauron he grabed GGs neck and burned him?
     
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    ya i was expecting an awesome dual between gilgalad and elendil against sauron. imagine how sweet it would be if say elendil runs up and hits sauron with a massive blow but it does nothing so sauron nocks him down. just then gilgalad runs up and stabs sauron in the ribs with aiglos. sauron yells out but he grabbs aiglos and a fire works its way up the spear and ignites gilgalad. elendil sees this runs up and deals out another massive blow that drops sauron to one knee, but as he stand back up he flings elendil against the rock wall. it would have taken about 20 seconds extra that i wish PJ would have added.
     
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    byzantine warrior Autokratos Konstantinou

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    that would be beyond awesome mormegil
     
  10. dwarf tosser

    dwarf tosser "What the Deuce?"

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    in the FOTREE look at the sauron pic and you can see the concept art for the burnig of gilgalad!!!!! Its only a pic of a man though not a gilgalad in armour.

    -dt
     
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    finrod Born to woe.

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    ermmmmmmmm, couldn't you have kept this quit EBM? now everyone knows Im a moron.
     
  12. celebrimor

    celebrimor Elven Jewel-smith

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    yeh, i was upset that they didn't show much of gil-galad all they show him do his stab an orc in the stomach with his spear and then in the pic galleries they show more of him but wtvr
     
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    dwarf tosser "What the Deuce?"

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    This may seem stupid, but i just bought an autograph of MArk Furguson on the pic of Gil Galad for $50.00. It's Awesome to me even if Gil was in the movie for only 3.4 seconds. It's the same pic as my icon. 8x10.

    -dt
     
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    finrod Born to woe.

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    50 bucks?, I do hope that photo was provided in a gold plated list.
     
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    He was in the movie a bit more than a few seconds because he is one of the three elves holding their rings.
     
  16. Curufeanor

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    well im hoping that all the deleted scenes (escape from moria, the full last alliance sequence, the lost buckland/old forest/barrow-downs scene which by the way only a segment made it in TTT:EE of all things!, etc.) will make it into the ROTK EE special edition DVD (with the bookends). That way we can see what never made the cut, cuz i think it would be entertaining.
     
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    Skyanide The Big Meanie Staff Member

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    That's OK Fin. Your secret is safe with us....:p
     
  18. Kuja

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    i never saw Gil-galad in the movies

    since he dies because of Sauron.. naturally i would assume he's at the beggining of the movie

    i've seen a ton of pictures of him. where is he in the movie?!
     
  19. Curufeanor

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    He's the guy who downward-stabs an orc, right before Elendil holds Narsil high above him, then Elrond looks up, and so does every1 else... to see Sauron glowering over them. This is really the only appearance he has other than the scene when the elves recieve their rings (he's the dark haired elf dude behind Galadriel)
     
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    OH... that guy..

    i've seen his pictures, so i know how he looks like

    i just plain forgot he was the stabber of the orc...guy...thing...yeah