Was Sirius's Death Truly Necessary

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  1. thehobbitelf

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    who me? nah ;);)
     
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    I'm not at all sure Sirius is really 100% dead. His demise was under very extraordinary circumstances and we never actually see his cold, lifeless body. That doorway/arch is obviously a magical artifact of some sort, connected to the "Other Side". If Sirius went though while still partially alive, he could be trapped in some sort of half-way point between life and death. Wth all the twists and turns that Rowling likes to throw at us, I wouldn't count my dead godfathers until I had absolute proof that he was actually pushing up daisies! ;)
     
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    lol good point... but I still think he is dead :( I miss my Padfoot! *cires*



    :321: :fuckyou: to Voldemort!






    :humper: <--- thats disturbing
     
  4. Nienor

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    It's true, Sirius might not be dead. Guess we won't find out until the sixth book. I hope he's not, Sirius is a great character. :)



    :eatshit: <----- I find this one a little disturbing too.
     
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    They could have very well killed off another characte in the book that was somewhat close to harry. LIke Cho. She irratates me. I don't belive that it was necessary for Sirius to die.
     
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    I thought it was going to be Neville that was killed in the book. Pretty well known character, but not particularly useful to the story. But I guess Rowling wanted a character that Harry was very close to.

    I agree, she could have killed off Cho and nobody would have noticed or particulary cared.
     
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    Interesting question as to whether Voldemort will "die". Harry has said at the end of this book that he was not as 'powerful' as Voldemort - he was unable to kill.

    If Harry did kill Voldemort, whatever his character, what would that make Harry? What will/could justify murder? Or will vanquishment mean something other than death - as Dumbledore aluded to...

    I'm worried about Dumbledore. According to the prophecy he is not the one with the power to vanquish Voldemort . Does that mean we're going to see Dumbledore die or be defeated?

    Don't think I could live with that one! :eek:
     
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    I think one reason why Rowling might have killed Sirius is because he had become fundamentally useless. Wormtongue told Voldemort and the Death Eaters of Sirius's Animangus form so *shrugs*. And she couldn't really keep him locked up inside the house could she?
    But it was soooo sad, I was crying for the next twenty minutes..had to stop reading..and then when I finally stopped crying, Harry blew up at Dumbledore and that made me cry again.
     
  9. byzantine warrior

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    you people are harry potter obsessed and I dont understand what is so great about these books:balrog: :balrog:
     
  10. Nienor

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    Byzantine, these threads are for people to discuss Harry Potter Books not insult them. If you want to tell everone how much you hate HP, post a thread in the debates or general section.
     
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    I dont hate it im just saying.....:D
     
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    Actually, I'm very glad that it wasn't Neville who died as Nienor thought it might be - especially in light of the history of the prophecy. Neville went from mouse to man in this last book. I think it would be one of the greatest swerves of all time if Neville and not Harry was ultimately responsible for Voldemort's demise.

    I also agree that I'm not sure we've lost padfoot just yet. If we have, it certainly wasn't a very satisfying end for a character that so much time was spent developing...
     
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    Did the book say anything like 'Harry looked on while sirus died' If it didint then he probably did not die and if he did then he died:D
     
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    Nope, he just vanished into a gateway of some sort. The gateway and its powers are never explained in the book, so we really don't know what it was. This is what makes me most suspicious about this "death".
     
  15. byzantine warrior

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    Then it seems that this characters death is nonexistent
     
  16. Nienor

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    Okay. :D And you should read atleast one of the books before you form an opinion on them.

    I'm not sure that Sirius is dead either. He seems to be in a different dimension, which may equate death, maybe not. I suspect he won't be brought back to life in the sixth book, but possibly in the seventh.
     
  17. byzantine warrior

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    Allright Nienor im starting om number one again
     
  18. Nienor

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    That should only take you a week. Easy reading. ;)
     
  19. byzantine warrior

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    Yes Nienor actually ive finished already I rate it 6 out of 10:)
     
  20. Nienor

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    That's about what I would rate the first book also. The fourth book is the best. The fifth is ok.