Was Sirius's Death Truly Necessary

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  1. Nienor

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    In the fifth book, was it important to the plot for Sirius to die?

    Sirius became Harry's father figure and close friend in the third and fourth books. Was it a good idea for Rowling to kill his character in the third book? After all, Harry has suffered enough pain and turnmoil in his short life. Isn't he entitled to some happiness?

    Does anyone else think this was a gimmick to sell more books. (i.e. the rumor of someone will die in the fifth book) Or was it truly an important point in the plot.
     
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    As much as I don't like it, it makes for a better story. Take away the thing your hero values most, make it basically his fault and see how he deals with it. I can't wait for trhe next book, which I think will probably explain a lot more and I think we will see more changes in Harry's character.
     
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    My thought is Harry has been through enough. He has no mother or father. His aunt and uncle who raised him are just horrible. His cousin hates & resents him. Harry has constant encounters with Voldemort. He finally has an adult in his life that he cares about. It's just not fair that was taken away from him.
     
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    But since when is life ever fair? We now get to see what Harry is really made of.
     
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    That's a good point, Arwen. I hope that was the reason Rowling killed Sirius off in the book.
     
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    See, I'm always right :D ;)

    Doesn't anyone else have opinions on the subject?
     
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    Never said you were always right. ;) Just that it's easier to agree with you.

    Yeah... Where are all the other HP fans. I know we're not the only people on this forum reading the series.
     
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    Now that is TRUE :D

    Yes, where are all the HP readers???????
     
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    RIGHT HERE! Oh man I cried my eyes out when Sirius died... I loved him so much. He was the best character on there... there is this neat thing on mugglenet.com that is clues to Sirius' death and its really weird because there are so many things that gave way to his death... I am so sad about it! He was more than just a character in a book to me! I dunno I get too attached to charcters.


    Long Live Padfoot! lol
     
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    He was a great character in the book. :) I loved his debut in the third book, where you think he's the villian and out to kill Harry. Then it turns out he had nothing to do with James and Lily's deaths.
     
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    she really does like twisting things around doesnt she? Like the way that Neville could have been going through all this instead of Harry... but Voldy chose Harry isntead, basically cause he was half and half like himself... I think Voldemort needs counciling
     
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    haha. That'd be hysterical. Sending the Dark Lord to see a psychiatrist.

    Psychiatrist: "Why are you so angry Tom?"
    Voldemort: "Cause no one loves me. My father left me at an orphanage *sniff* I could only afford hand me down robes, all the kids in Slytherine teased me. I can't even stand my muggle name"

    Anyways.... I think the part that the prophecy could be about Neville is an interesting point. After all, much of Harry's powers come from the ones Voldemort accidentally transferred to him.
     
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    Yeah... I hope Voldie dies. Siriusly! *cries* I HATE BELATRIX!
     
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    Voldemort will probably die in the end of the seventh book. Anyone want to make bets on that. :D
     
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    I hate Belatrix I hope she dies lol
     
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    By the end of the seventh book, I'm almost sure most of the Death Eaters will die. Malfoy, Bellatrix and the rest of them.
     
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    how about ALL of teh Malfoys? mwhahaha
     
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    That's a good question. I wonder if Rowling will kill of Draco Malfoy at the end of the book.
     
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    I want Voldemort to kill them ALL... even Narcissa or whatever her name is... Sirius' cousin or whatever... I dont want Harry to kill anyone but Voldemort... cause harry doesnt like to kill... well he did want to kill Belatrix... so I hope he does that... im babbeling
     
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    Little bit sadistic aren't ya, THE. :D