Probably sounds like a stupid question, but my friend and I, got in an argument over this. When Frodo sails from the Grey Havens to Valinor, is that him actually dying, or is that him actually sailing to the undying lands. In the Movie Return of the King Gandalf describes what its like to die to Pippen, and he describes it almost word for word as Tolkine describes what Frodo see's at the end of Return of the King(book). But I think its in the Silmarillion(pg.?) that few mortals are allowed, save by choice of the Valar to enter valinor, and even though they are in the undying lands, they must remain Mortal. Any insight would help alot.