Theories: Spoilers!!!

Discussion in 'Speculation' started by Khamul, Dec 30, 2003.

  1. Khamul

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    Well, I have been thinking a little bit about how things will happen in the final battles, and I am sure most of these can easily be refuted. :)

    How to destroy the Dark One:
    I was thinking Balefire with the Asha'man. If they were able to create a balefire big enough, would that fix all that the Dark One did and wretch him from the pattern? Doubt it, but it would be interesting to find out. :)

    How the Dragon Reborn will go insane:
    Wasn't all too sure about this one, but I thought that was really just the general process of having everyone around him doubt his true intentions. Elayne, Morgase, etc.

    How those near (emotionally) to the Dragon will die:
    Maybe because he is always sending them away to avoid him that they do not have protection at some points?

    Well, just some guessing here. I had some better ones, but I can't remember them now. I will post them after I can remember. Give your theories as well. ;)

    (Note - I have only read up to Book 8)
     
  2. Turin

    Turin Valar Morghulis

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    I think the Balefire idea might be legit, but I would assume the Dark One would be slain by the Dragon (or the other way around)
     
  3. Khamul

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    Alot of those opinions have changed after reading some more, but I think that alot of them are still interesting.
     
  4. Turin

    Turin Valar Morghulis

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    I have another theory, maybe this is something that already came up in a book I haven't read yet, but I think that one of Morgase's kids was father by Thom. Crazy huh?
     
  5. Khamul

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    Hmm, that is actually really possible, but I think they said something about that later on.
     
  6. Turin

    Turin Valar Morghulis

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    Hmm, like I said, I am only on book #4.

    My other theory is that Lanfear will betray the dark one and aid Rand, perhaps not in the final battle, but in some way.
     
  7. GameMaster

    GameMaster I's all about the Game!

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    Ok let me set you guys straight hehe.

    First of all, to balefire the DO is practically impossible. In fact Robert Jordan was asked about this in an interview and he said that the amount of balefire to destroy the DO would be enormous, not achiavable, and in any case it would destroy the world.

    None of the kids are fathered by Thom, that's just a fact.
     
  8. Pallaeon

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    I agree, the dark one has too many threads spread throughout the wheel, and the reason behind everyone being scared to use balefire too much is based upon the fact that it completely removes that thread from the wheel of time, and if done too much the entire wheel might unravel or so the books state. Somehow I feel Moraine's part is not quite done, and she'll somehow return to aid Rand in the end.
     
  9. Elan Morin Tedronai

    Elan Morin Tedronai The Forsaken

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    Its impossible to balefire the DO, he exists OUTSIDE of Time, therefore, you couldn't balefire him, because it wouldnt take him back in time, because he doesnt even exist there. Sorry if that doesnt make sense, it does to me :)
     
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    One thing I've always wondered.
    The prophecies and Rand's beliefs lead me to think that he's going to die in the end (ex.Shi'tan and Rand kill each other at the same time). It seems everyone is worried about Rand surviving until Tarmon Gai'don, but no one seems to think he'll live past that.
    Do you think RJ wanted everyone to think this so that if he lives in the end everyone will be surprised, or do you think he'll die in the end? Any opinions?
     
  11. shaiel

    shaiel Chumai Tardaad

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    i hope he dies in the end, because rand, like jesus and mercutio (odd comparison) is more appealing as a martyr. but it has been specualted that he'll live on afterwards in obscurity as a blind beggar. i DON'T want this to happen, because this either means that everyone who would look out for rand is dead or they all think he's dead and he masquerades as a beggar to avoid them, both of which are tragic. i hope he dies.
    the blind beggar thing is the fisher king thing. :D check out the theory post on wotmania.com if you don't know about this. if you do end up at wotmania and need help with anything, i'm Moiraine44 over there, drop me a note.
     
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    Thanks, I'll check that site out!
     
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    Elan Morin Tedronai The Forsaken

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    Interesting, i havent heard the blind beggar theory before....in my opinion Rand will die, either that or LTT will die and Rand will live on, completely sane.
     
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    I like that idea, I never thought of that before. I'd prefer that to Rand dying/going crazy of course!
     
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    RJ has planted a few seeds about Rand cleansing Saidin. My guess is that the source will be cleansed, prolly with Nynaeve's help. I personally think he'll live, but hey, who knows.
     
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    Do you want a spoiler? I can answer part of that question.
     
  18. Meteorain

    Meteorain Magical & Mystical

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    Lol the thread did warn for spoilers...yes Rand does clear Saidin taint. Oh i think a big dragon will burst out of Rand and Consume the DO....no on a more serious note i think that Rand will be able to summon enough balefire to blast the DO with (i don't know any rfenc of m being outside of time, as the only the creator is), and will crack the world. Except Rand and the main characters will survive, and together they'll bring order back to the world, etc.
     
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    I read in a RJ interview on dragonmount.com that he flatly states that balefire cannot affect the Dark One.

    I didn't want to answer Turin in case he was not ready to know. :) I read spoilers then say, crap I should not have read that
     
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    Meteorain Magical & Mystical

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    hmmm maybe he can create a special Balefire, like anti-DO balefire (ebonfire?), or mayb he can use callandor to pierce his soul, or something like that.