The Reign of King Elessar

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  1. Urambo Tauro

    Urambo Tauro Art House Member

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    In The Return of the King, we read about the crowning of King Elessar in the chapter "The Steward and the King". Aragorn is crowned, and Faramir cries out, 'Behold the King!' We also read:
    Did Tolkien write anything concerning Middle-earth taking place after The Return of the King?
     
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    He started a story that takes place in the 4th age, but decided to abandon the idea. It can be found in one of the later History of Middle Earth volumes. If I remember correctly, the story concerned an uprising in Gondor from a group who did not like Aragorn's rule as king. Other than that, I don't recall any.
     
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    Do you know exactly which History of Middle-earth volume? I'd like to read what there is of that story...
     
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    Not exactly sure, actually. I could go look it up if you want though.
     
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    Yes Radagast that would be great if you could try and look it up. It sounds very intresting.
     
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    Peoples of Middle Earth, Volume 12.
     
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    In one of the books, when Arda was being made, the Valar saw a vision of what was going to happen. They saw up to the End of the Third age, but for the Fourth they couldn't see what happens. I assume Morgoth comes back, and screws everything up for Men.
     
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    Thanks Radagast... I don't think that Morgoth himself could come back. I would think that maybe they couldn't see it because the world did change at the end of the Third Age. It began the world of men. But maybe not...
     
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    He is going to comeback eventually. He will attack, and the world will be changed. The Silmarils will be reunited, and Morgoth will be slain be Eonwe and Turin Tuambar, who will get vengence for the cruelties Morgoth has done to mankind. Then a second music, two new trees, and everything will be forever good. It's in either Book of lost tales or HoME 1-5 (don't know).
     
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    He is going to comeback eventually. He will attack, and the world will be changed. The Silmarils will be reunited, and Morgoth will be slain by Eonwe and Turin Tuambar, who will get vengence for the cruelties Morgoth has done to mankind. Then a second music, two new trees, and everything will be forever good. It's in either Book of lost tales or HoME 1-5 (don't know).
     
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    I had thought that the song of the ainur ended with the third movement where Melkor was overpowered but everyone realizing that even his voice was a design of Eru. Thats all from memory so I could have it a bit wrong, but that would be counter to a resurging Melkor and a final absolute defeat. Ive never read the home books though.
     
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    Thanks

    Now isengard, do you know that Morgoth comes back? Because if you don't I doubt he comes back.
     
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    I specifically remember reading it. It stuck out in my mind because it is basicly ME Armageddon. I'll try to find out where.
     
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    Didn't Tolkien make his Middle-earth "stories" as the myth of England?
    That would mean that after the Third-age comes the history as we know it.
    Though it doesn't mean that there wouldn't be Armageddon in Tolkien's
    vision somewhere (it just means that it won't be there instantly after the Third-age)...
     
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    i read somewhere that Aragorn ruled in peace and chose the time of his death,as the kings of old..Whereapon Arwen left Minas Tirith,wandered Middle earth grieving for him..Also a little about Legolas & Gimli,talking about building a ship too take them into the west..Can't remember where..so i'm not much help"sorry"...
     
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    When Aragorn starts to feel age, he summons Arwen to tell her he will be leaving, to die. She grieves for this and tries to stop him, but he just falls into a never ending sleep, not exactly death. After this, Legolas finally feels the all from the Undying Lands - Valinor - and decides to take Gimli with him. Lady Galdriel decides to let Gimli find Valinor for her ... love? admiration? friendship? ... for him. Sam becomes mayor of the Shire 7 times. Eomer marries prince Imrahil's daughter, and has a daughter who becomes first queen of the Mark. Pippin marries, Merry marries, Sam marries. Faramir and Eowyn marry and become prince and princess of Ithilien.

    And may their memory forever lie in our hearts.