The Prince That Was Promised/R + L = J Theories - WARNING: SPOILERS

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  1. Appaliq

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    lol

    "...and they lived happily ever after. Until a global virus swept over the Seven Kingdoms and wiped out the population in it's entirety. The End."
     
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    I agree with you on flawed characters - that's why I like Jaime :D. I don't think Rhaegar is necessarily a 'cliche white knight' though. I think he's interesting because initially he seems a bad guy, then later we see hints that we're not seeing the full story. He's intriguing because he's mysterious, not because he's perfect.

    EDIT: @ App: LOL!
     
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    App, you rock. :D And here I was wondering how you were doing... how ARE you?

    And I agree completely with Lyanna. The thing about Rhaegar is that he seemed like an unchivalrous knight at first, and then the story begins to emerge...

    What occurs to me now is that Crusader and I haven't had a good row for months. :( Just reading over some of the old posts reminded me of that...
     
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    Crusader Disturber of the Peace

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    I'm getting my fix in the debate section since you disappeared on me!
     
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    Well, I'm SORRY! >=(

    But c'mon... you have to admit that the debate section can't be nearly as satisfying as you yelling at me that I'm wrong, lol. They haven't the years of weighty history of conflict that we do...
     
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    :D Ah, the old rivalry restored...

    Should the rest of us get out the popcorn?
     
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    Lol, Lya... you're just awesome. xD No other way to put it.
     
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    *revels in awesomeness* ;)
     
  9. Appaliq

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    LD! I missed ya babe. Heard you visited another TFF member this summer, but I can't remember who. Why wasn't it me!?
     
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    I don´t think Rheagar is as bad as Robert made him out to be. But he is not a knight ín shining armour either. Noone is, that is a fact of life. He probably has lots of bad qualities, like anyone else. We just haven´t heard about them. I don´t really know enough about him, to make a judgement.

    But I must admit that apart from Robert, people generally make him sound pretty good.
    Just before he left for the Trident, he told Jaime that when he came back, there were going to be some changes. So he atleast knew that something was rotten in the state of Westeros, and planned to do something about it. If he would have acted on his thoughts is another matter. People often has all kind of good intentions, but they have to act on them. He didn´t do anything when the starks, and their bannermen were executed.
    What kind of changes do you think he had in mind. Making his father pass over the throne for reasons of health (read Insanity) Or something else?
     
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    He'd have a hard job making Aerys give up the throne, given that Aerys is basically all-powerful. There's no-one who has the right to stop him. Besides that, the Targaryens have a history of mentally unstable (at best) rulers. I think he'd have to usurp Aerys to get rid of him. Otherwise, he may have intended to try for damage limitation but ultimately there's not much he can do while Aerys is still in power.
     
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    APP! :D Omg, I haven't seen you for SUCH a long time... but I went and visited Senekha. ;) I should come visit you if I manage to go to East Coast for uni. xD
     
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    Yes. Yes you should!
     
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    The Promised "Prince" is a Princess in my opinion, it's Dany.
     
  15. Gwywen

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    Possibly. Someone (Aemon?) said it was a translation error. The Valyrian word for Prince is the same as the word for Princess.
     
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    I think it was to do with the fact that the dragons have no gender and everyone assumed it was a prince? cant quite recall the passage between Sam and Aemon, but yeah, it left it open as to wether it was a male for female, However Aemon seem very convinced it was Dany.
     
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    That doesn't necessarily make it Dany though... just because the PtwP could be female doesn't mean it can't be male.

    Hey, I wonder if valonquar is similarly genderless???
     
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    It was indeed Aemon, I remember that much. IIRC, it was a passage where Aemon insisted that dragons were neither male nor female but changeable.
     
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    This reminds me of Jurassic park and the gender changing frogs.
     
  20. Gwywen

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    Well, a dragon is a sort of dinosaur too, so why not :D