Speculations!

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  1. Appaliq

    Appaliq No One

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    That's a really good question. I'm going to say no. We all saw him interfere in Tyrion's love life (Tysha). I think if he had known he might have put a stop to it.
     
  2. Renzokuken

    Renzokuken You have failed this city!

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    I've got to agree with App. Tywin is not like the Targaryens. I don't think he'd endorse the fact that his son and daughter were sleeping around behind the king.
     
  3. Liadan

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    I do too, but the question still remains...

    AFFC SPOILER! Highlight:

    But how did Kevan know?
     
  4. Plish

    Plish Soul Sailing Psychonaut

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    I always thought it was because of his son...I have a feeling that Tywin knew...
     
  5. K'shar

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    Tywin prolly knew but wouldn't actually admit it or accept it. Half the bloody court wasn't suprised in the least when Stannis's letters got out. I don't see Tywin not knowing, he's too smart not to see it. You can know something but as long as you're not confronted by it you don't have to deal with it.
     
  6. Plish

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    Maybe the death of his wife weakened him?
     
  7. K'shar

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    I think thats a given. It was commented by both Kevan and the Lannister Aunt married to that weasel Frey that Tywin was never the same after his wife kicked it.
     
  8. Liadan

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    But if he knew about it, he wouldn't have condoned it. Incest is a sin in both the eyes of gods and men, as I think Stannis said, and Tywin wouldn't have just let his daughter and son sleep together...
     
  9. Plish

    Plish Soul Sailing Psychonaut

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    Sure he would...He's a Lannister for crying out loud! :p

    Anyways...I still have a feeling that he did know...MAybe he wasn't willing to accept it, so therefore he didn't actualy believe it...I dunno if that even makes sense lol :p
     
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  10. Liadan

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    Yeah, it kinda does... when you put it in a sensible way. ;) I think what you mean is that when people don't want to admit the truth, they deny it and hope it goes away, right? (And I swear, if anyone mentions one word about Rhaegar or Jaime....! :D)
     
  11. Plish

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    Yeah...That's what I meant to say! Lol...And this seems vaguely familiar....
     
  12. Liadan

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    Shut. Up. ;)
     
  13. Appaliq

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    Let go with the next question.

    What do you think "A Song of Ice and Fire" means?

    I'm a big fan of the Dany/Jon thing, but I know there are a few more interpretations.
     
  14. K'shar

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    I'll bite on the Dany Jon thing. or it could refer to The Others who are minions of he who must not be named!!! (Ice) and R'hllor The God of Light(Fire) Like most things by GRRM it prolly is more than just one thing.
     
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    Agreed. ^^
     
  16. Crusader

    Crusader Disturber of the Peace

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    Speculation; Rhaegar was FAT!

    fins me one chapter to refute it.













    Seriously, like a manatee
     
  17. K'shar

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    LOL. HAHAHAHA. Sweet. I don't know about that one way or the other but if it gets under the Rhaegar groupies skin than I'll agree
     
  18. Liadan

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    Hey, don't get jealous that I hate you and don't hate Rhaegar. :p And I hate to prove you wrong and hurt your feelings further, but he wasn't. Besides the fact that he was a warrior and therefore would have been in good condition, there's also stuff from AFFC:

    HIGHLIGHT:

    In the third Cersei chapter: " [...] The other cousin, Elinor [Margaery's cousin], was sharing a cup of wine with the handsome young Bastard of Driftmark, Aurane Waters. It was not the first time the queen had made note of Waters, a lean young man with grey-green eyes and long silver-gold hair. The first time she had seen him, for half a heartbeat she had almost thought Rhaegar Targaryen had returned from the ashes. It is his hair, she told herself. He is not half as comely as Rhaegar was. His face is too narrow, and he has that cleft in his chin. The Velaryons came from old Valyrian stock, however, and some had the same silvery hair as the dragonkings of old."

    Before you try to come up with some silly argument that Rhaegar was ugly, attempt to remember that he was a Targ, and Targs had an almost inhuman beauty or some such thing (look through the artwork thread for GRRM's exact descriptions of Targs that I posted). And you might say that Cersei's an unreliable source of info, but I doubt that GRRM would have Cersei lie over something like this.

    In any case, whenever GRRM sends Amok a description of Rhaegar, we'll know for certain what he looks like.
     
  19. Plish

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    Pffft...That had almost nothing to do with Rheagar, 'cept with the hair
     
  20. Liadan

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    Read that bold word there? :p