Sirius and Bellatrix

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  1. Boadicea

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    I was looking at a star map tonight, and I saw Sirius, the dog star, which Sirius Black is named after. Across from him is the star called Bellatrix, who is also Sirius's cousin. J.K. Rowling plans her books very carefully, and I think that this is part of the centaurs' prophecy that she intentionally added to the book. I just found this fascinating, and I wanted to share it.
     
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    Yeah, I found this out too some time ago...wasn't the star called "Sirius A" ?

    JK Rowling seems to be accomplished in Astronomy
     
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  3. Boadicea

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    According to my map, it's simply 'Sirius'. It's pat of the Canis Major constellation, and I'm pretty sure 'canis' means dog in latin. She does indeed seem to be accomplished in astronomy.
     
  4. Lady Cyllíeth

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    But I think there's Sirius A and Sirius B.
    It's a double star system.
     
  5. Turambar

    Turambar Harebrained Staff Member

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    Double stars are REALLY close to each other, so they appear as one. But it is kinda cool, I mean, JK planning her names. For instance, we had a discussion earlier about the Patil sisters (Padma and Parvati, I think they are called), that mix into the story from time to time. They appear to have names of Hindu goddesses. I hope we will see why in the future. At least it is interesting to know the girl in Gryffindor is associated with Kali, goddess of destruction, as one of the guises of appearance Though it must also be said that some names are a bit too obvious and actually give away plot points to anyone with decent knowledge, like Remus Lupin (both are wolf, one in Latin, one in acient Germanic or something).
     
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    I've heard that Draco Malfoy is called after an ancient greek judge or something like that.
    He was known for his cruel judgements what fits to Malfoy.
     
  7. Boadicea

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    I didn't know that. Interesting. I know Draco's first name is a constellation of a serpent, which goes along with the fact he's in Slytherin.
     
  8. Celestial Wanderer

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    I have read somewhere that "Draco" could mean "Dragon"
     
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    that's right,it means dragon.
     
  10. isengard111

    isengard111 The Master Chief

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    Reminds me of the Matrix.
     
  11. holly st.Raven

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    Actually, Draco means large lizard; dragon, as we know it comes from germanic and nordic mythologie, while draco comes from ancient greek/latin. The term draco as dragon comes from common names from some large lizard species, ie: Comodo Dragon.
     
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    That's fascinating. I never knew all that stuff. OK, at least I knew that "Lupin" means wolf, but I wasn't thinking of anything like that.
     
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    Lady Dark Moon Goddess of Black Magic

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    she did a lot of research before she wrote the books. does anyone know that Nicholas Flamel is a real person who was an alchemist? and mandrakes, and Cerberus the three-headed dog, banshees, basilisk, and everything else she took from ancient mythology. the Veil in the fifth one she didn't make it up either. she took it from some old Jerusalem temple where there was a viel that cut off the Ark of the Covenant. and in ancient days they really did practice tea-leaf reading.
     
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    yer all this is in that book called .....m agical worlds of harry potter , it gives u all the info i got it free wid the 6th book
    pretty cool actually
     
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    also avada kedrava means disappear like this word in middle eastern language aramiac or sumthin
     
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    Actalyy, the more precise translation of avada kedavra, from ancient arameic is: 'cease to be' or 'cease to exist'. Thats also the origin of good old abrakadabra- the magicians used the word beliving that it will augment their wanishing trick
     
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    I understand that it's necessary for her to draw off mythology in many cases, but some of the stuff is just... cheating. I mean, giving characters names that relate directly to their personalities/traits like she does is silly. (Who was that guy in Star Wars, General Grievous or something? I'm still annoyed about that name.) It's one thing to 'reward' people's knowledge of mythology or language via forshadowing, but it's quite another to give the plot away, and it's difficult to believe that people just happen to grow up and develop traits that suit the names their parents gave them.
     
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    yes, yes... Sirius was a bit too easy. Still some are freaking hard to guess. Take for instance Albus Dumbledore. Do you see a good reason for that name? Only when you learn a great deal more about mythology does it give away it's price. And as to Sirius' last name, thas' slightly more complicated then at first might appear. Read here to get what I mean.

    But yes, it was around page 50 I guessed Sirius Black would be logically connected to Harry in a way that would at first not to appear so from the story....
     
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    Wow, great finds Turambar. :)
    I just reread book 6, and I'm convinced that Dumbledor knew what Malfoy was up too, and made Snape do it. But, that's another thread. :)
     
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    I disagree, I believe it's what Dumbledore alluded to earlier. His mistakes are larger than others when he makes them. He made a mistake by trusting Snape. But that's another thread. ;)

    Great article, Turambar.

    On a side note, I saw the trailer for HP5 at the movies today. :gbounce: I wanna see it! :ybounce: