Discussion in 'Every Day Debating' started by Drac Critius, May 9, 2006.
Whoa that was freaky
I don't know if this is true or not but i've heard that "back in the day" theaters would slip in short clips of coke or something and it would make people want to buy coke even though they didn't really see the clip . . . Sorta like in fight club.
They did try that based on an experiment run by some scientist. It was later proven that he had manipulated his findings and after numerous re-test the psychology community views subliminal messages in this form (shots in movie) to be based on a hoax and in no way significantly influential on your average human being.
In zanven's post what exactly were those pictures at the end of the flash video? And how are they supposed to tie into the subliminal messages? I don't know why but it scared the crap out of me when I saw those images.
Well, it was not exactly my intention to scare, (even though it's a fun extra) I just posted that because I think people read too much into things like that. That was just a little wake-up call. = )
I think the Disney stuff is done partly to make the adults want to watch the movie to see if they can catch it. If you put stuff into kids movies that makes them enjoyable for the adults then you've increased you're audience size. The Muppet movies have a few things like that. Muppet Christmas Carol has Beaker flipping scrooge the finger for not making a donation to them. Muppet Treasure Island has some guy sniffing a fish like a pervert in one of the songs. Gonzo is a total masachist (how the hell do u spell that?) Make it entertaining for the adults and the movie gets watched by a bigger audience.
Who the hell plays anything backward??? I mean how do you even do that???
I think that running things backwards comes from the days when people could pull a record in the opposite direction and people used to say that they could hear messages that had been recorded to play in that direction. Also I suppose with DVD's you can now run things backwards at different speeds too.
I can't see the sfx/sex thing in that picture.
If you look hard enough you can find messages in anything, take the WTC in the dollar bill thing for example. Doesn't mean they were intended.
Programmers and animators are famous for putting 'Easter Eggs' in their work though. I don't see the harm as long as they're not overt. I mean, 99.9% of them you have to be told they're there before you notice them.
EDIT - NO SWEARING LIKE THAT PLEASE
Damn don't do that again...
HEY...it's 2:00 AM and my house is really dark and I hadn't read the other posts yet!
I don't really see what all the fuss with "subliminal messages" is about. Most people don't notice, and it doesn't hurt anybody 99.999% of the time.
Except when Zanven posts stuff.
Unraveller, if you can't see anything in that picture at the top of the thread, you're a purer man than I
I love how people talk about society as if it's everyone else -- except them.
Truth is we, me and you, are all apart of society. If sex sells it is because of us. If we want that to change then we have to invest in products that don't advertise that way.
Money talks much louder than a voice. If a company sees that the money is in advertising with a little sex in it, then the company will advertise that way. But if the company sees that the money is not in it then they will not pursue customers in that fashion.
In fact, if you ever want a company to move in a certain direction, use your money. They're not interested in your opinion. They are interested in making a profit. Where-ever your money is, they will follow it.
They sell sex because its sells. And sex sells because we buy it.
It... amuses me greatly that a number of people posting here seem to have either brains the size of walnuts or extremely cloistered lives. Sex is a primal drive. We want it - we desire it on the same level we desire food, air and water. This is a fundamental fact of human nature. Those of you who've stated that sex is terrible or awful or dirty, just relax. It's a penis in a vagina. If it didn't happen, not only would the human race have died out aeons ago, but teenagers would have a lot less to do on Saturday nights.
Subliminals have been disproven in countless experiments. I'd find some evidence, but I really can't be arsed catering to what is, apparently, a crowd of twelve-year-olds.
M'kay, pumpin? Kissies.
Keep the condescending attitude to yourself. If you're trying to show your level of maturity by belittling and name calling, it didn't work.
And while we're at it, before you go off and find evidence against subliminal messages you can backtrack across the measly 3 pages of this thread and find me one comment that acts aghast over sex and calls it awful or dirty, just one. Because I've seen nothing but conversation and people saying sex sells and its a primal drive (yup, unoriginal as well as condescending).
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