Sexual innuendos and subliminal messages

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  1. Drac Critius

    Drac Critius Radical Subjectivist

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    They’re on your TV, in your magazines, on your posters, in store windows, on your radio…


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    How do you feel about them? Do you believe they are corrupting our minds and our children’s, or just misinterpretations.


    I myself am undecided at the moment, but I will very much like to hear everyones opinion…



    Carpe Noctem


    DC :)
     
  2. Drac Critius

    Drac Critius Radical Subjectivist

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    Just the other day I saw a shoe advertisement that had a girl in a bikini crawling on the floor; I thought to myself…”What the hell does this have to do with a tennis shoe?”. Sexual innuendos are even present in some of our children’s cartoons, as well as subliminal messages.


    The little mermaid-


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    What the hell is going on here?


    DC
     
  3. Turambar

    Turambar Harebrained Staff Member

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    I don't get it Drac...

    What would you suggest the function or the... greater cause of these "subliminal messages" would be? I can only see that the old Proverb "sex sells" holds true.

    As to the first picture, I'm not too sure the subliminal image of a woman masturbating will influence you in any way untill you have seen the picture as you have show it. Also note that it's not entirely sure the artist meant to include this image in his/her picture - or that the advertiser meant anything by it.

    It took me a while to find the fallus you pointed out in the Little Mermaid but again, I can only say that this might as well be a coincidence. What would Disney gain in the including of this fallic tower in one of their cartoons?

    and are you sure you haven't watched too much "Fight Club"?

    If this is about "the great conspiracy":

    *sigh*....
     
  4. Drac Critius

    Drac Critius Radical Subjectivist

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    Great conspiracy? Fight club? Please don't take advantage of this thread solely to criticize me, Tur.

    Anyway, if you feel that these images have been misinterpreted, then I respect that.


    My point is that these kind of advertisements as well sexual innuendos are being sold to us and our children in sugar coated packages, but for what, I honestly don't know. Does anybody else notice this?


    DC


    Edit:

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    Now if this isn’t obvious, I don't know what is.


    Super Edit: the lion king

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    Hmm..SEX
     
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  5. Alchemist

    Alchemist The Fighters Guide House Member

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    Your right Drac. There are alot of sexual innuendos in everything just about. Now, its not a conspiricy but they just like to do it.
    There are a ton in disney cartoons, why? I have no clue.
    They use the excuse "sex sales" when they use it to sell products, but I for one dont fall for it. Hell, if anyone thinks that sprayin on Axe, or Tag is gonna get a horde of women to rape you then you need mental help to begin with.
     
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    Im pretty sure most of thoes aren't made on purpose
     
  7. celtic_wisdom

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    I agree...Why would disney want to write 'sex' in the middle of Lion King?

    But in advertisements..it's true that sex sells, and it's getting worst...there are naked people everywhere...lol
     
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    I think disney does, because they can.
     
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    I had heard about the Disney one a long time ago. I was told that the artist who did the cover/movie poster had changed the picture of the castle at the last minute because they were having conflicts with someone abover them and wanted to get back at them. I have no idea how true that really is though.

    And all the adds now seem like they have sex in them somewhere. I have a three year old, and having her see some, even if she does not know what they mean still irratates the hell out of me.
     
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    Ahahahahahahaha! That's hilarious! :)

    Unless it's advertising a kids' toy or something. What is it advertising? And where was it from? Sometimes sexy messages are "appropriate" considering what they're selling. If it's advertising something in Ralph or FHM, that's obviously different to advertising on Nickelodeon or a Dolly magazine.

    As for the Disney stuff - I'd say that's more a bunch of rogue animators trying to see who can sneak in the naughtiest stuff they can. Apparently there are potatos and jogging shoes in the asteroid field in Empire Strikes Back. Movie crews regularly sneak little things into footage as inside jokes for themselves to enjoy.
     
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    what can you do Drac sex sells, personally i have no opion on the whole subliminal message thing, i say more power to them, i want them to tell me what to do as long as i have the illusion of self control ill be their puppet. Joking :)
     
  12. Confessor

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    Okay as everyone else has stated sex does sell. Look at the strip clubs and the pornos that are sold yearly - heck daily. In some peoples mind sex is the way to get out of their problems, or in some cases being to have problems. Sex is a top hit at newstands. Look at Playboy for instance, how many thousands of copies are sold daily. Yes it is sad that our society needs Sex to get throughout a day but that is how society works. Indeed it is messed up but what can you do...? Just do your best to not let it worry you and move on. And in regards to the disney movies I'm not looking for the hidden Sex messages. Sure they were a big debate about it but look at Disney - they are the biggest franchise for children. The movies, books, theme parks, t-shirts, and even video games. Above all Disney's purpose is to make people happy and of course fill their pockets with money. Oh well...I'm just rambling now. Hope this made some sense. :)
     
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  13. Crusader

    Crusader Disturber of the Peace

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    The whole sex sells thing is a psychological ploy in advertising, my intoning the basic desires of the Id to sell the product. People will sometimes add in subliminal messeges of certain primal urges such as sex and thus by classical association use the desire that your subconcious has for such things and transfers it onto the product. So instead of just wanting a product for the benefit it provides, it becomes more of a subtle primal craving.

    Simple really.
     
  14. chancock

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    actually the Lion King SEx in the sky was supposedly supposed to say SFX for some sort of audio thing-still a subliminal message but not sexual.
     
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    It's not sad at all. Sex is an expression of love-one of the most basic needs of all humans is physical contact, social interaction, and acceptance. For consenting adults sex can fullfil this function. Especially for married couples sex is verry important in holding the relationship togather and expressing love to one another.

    The need for sex isn't sad or a problem, rather the ways in which some people fulfill this basic need through porno and meaningless relationships and also how sex is exploited for financial gain are the things that are sad and problematic.

    Personally though, I love my fiancee, and when I'm married I hope to never have to get through my day with out a little help from sex
     
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  16. Winterine

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    SFX is actually a (Bristish?) magazine that covers fantasy and sci-fi books, movies, TV etc. Great magazine :) Don't know about any audio thingy relasted to Lion King though, but I didn't read it back in Lion King days.
     
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    You guys don't suppose Disney would sell if they intended sexual innuendos? Why that would all the more discourage parents from buying their products for their children? I suppose the artists are trying to be funny, drawing stuf f like that
     
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    Well oddly enough, Lion King (one of the top offending subliminal message movies) actually was a verry popular date movie when it was released. While Disiny itself would be sucesfull no mater what, I think some of Lion Kings sucess-especially with adult audiances may be subliminal
     
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    Chech out all these subliminal messages in songs and commericals and other medias.Subliminal Messages
     
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    zanven.

    that was a seriously rotten joke to unleash upon the unsuspecting. though i suspected something, i did not expect so much.

    i thought my mind was beyond weak so as to succumb to subliminal messages but this little exercise exposed a weakness i knew not existed until now. superior mental resolve in the face of the unexpected and even greater mental precaution.

    as for subliminal messages in general. yeah they obviously exist and some prove more powerful than others. there is an entire hidden language that goes unnoticed by most.
     
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