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Discussion in 'Twilight' started by Map the Dragon, Jun 8, 2011.

  1. Foinikas

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    Well I watched the movies first and then I bought the first book.But I haven't read it yet,just read some parts for fun,because I bought it the same day I bought Metro 2033 and you know...it's a much easier read than Metro plus I had already seen the movie so I didn't worry about reading Twilight.It's not some super-epic thing you know,it's something nice,easy to read or watch and enjoy it.It doesn't have to be only about women.Men can like it too.Just like some women like books that are mostly for men.

    By the way I just finished watching Underworld Rise of the Lycans again and I wonder,this is a very good vampire fantasy thing...well movies,but if they kept making movies and stuff about it would it have continued to be cool or would it end up like a stupid series of no-good story and all that usually comes with too many sequels for a movie.
     
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    Sorry for the double post.
     
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    Cascador Who's Anakin?

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    Well my opinion on True Blade isn't an immediate statement that all vampires have to be gothic, but I don't think they should be EMO kids that glitter in the sunlight either. With all respect I think the writer is clearly putting in some Mormon propaganda in her books. I don't like to go near religion again, but that is one of the reasons I don't like the books.
     
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    Woot!Mormon progapanda?Can you tell me more about this please?
     
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    Cascador Who's Anakin?

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    It's really a look, but don't touch kind of mentality going on between Bella and Edward and you can see that her Mormon religion also influences the story that they don't have sex before marriage. Yeah this doesn't only relate to Mormons, but other religions too I know. But to get off the topic of religion, these are supposed to be vampires, which are often related to lust. So you don't make an orgy of it, that's not necessary at all, but this is really awkward almost. In truth these aren't vampires, but are just labeled as such because they also suck blood to keep themselves alive. But in attitude they're not like vampires that we know, which can be gothic or not. But the vampire is all what lust, greed is about and that doesn't necessarily have to be bad or evil, but this goody goody attitude makes the characters totally uninteresting and paints a black and white picture over the story that makes it worse.
     
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    Well to be honest,I found the life of Tom Cruise(don't remember the name of the character)in Interview with a Vampire totally boring.I was like...ok so what's the point?What the heck?

    While in other movies like Underworld,Blade etc. Vampires have more goals,many of them a more sophisticated way of life and all that.When I think of Vampires and gothic underground atmosphere my mind goes to Vampire the Masquarade Bloodlines which is one of my favorite games and definetely one of the super best Vampire themed things ever.And I say things because although it's a game,the whole atmosphere,quests,dialogues and characters can easily compete or take a place along with the best Vampire movies,novels and TV series.

    But ok,in Twilight it is explained in the third movie when Edward tells Bella that he comes from a different age.I liked that.Because although they seem like modern,cool vampires with gadgets,expensive cars and modern houses,they...well at least some of them,don't forget the eras where they grew up as humans.So Edward has this mentality,these moral values or ideals if you want.

    Now as for Meyers being a Mormon I didn't know that.And I couldn't have imagined that a Mormon would write books about vampires etc.I thought they lived in farms far away from cities and villages? :p
     
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    Bram Stoker's Dracula just rules. That's really the business. As a book it's superior to all other vampire novels imo. And the movie was good too. Gary Oldman was fantastic as Dracula and while being a villain he made the character sympathetic, he actually made it layered, very 3-dimensional, which personally my critique is also with the Twilight characters. The writer is trying too hard to make them interesting and bring out wrong ideas to do so, which is why she almost made Bella suicidal in New Moon. And no I was surprised too when I heard the novels were written by a Mormon lol. When Padmé found out she just named Twilight Mormon Porn... lol
     
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    You said the word now: Bram Stoker's Dracula,that's all you needed to say.Hands down it's the masterpiece.I have the movie on original DVD and I had the tape years ago back when I was going to school.What's more powerful and classic than having Anthony Hopkins,Gary Oldman,Keanu Reeves,Wynona Rider and a vast number of other fantastic actors in one of the best movies ever filmed.The atmosphere is just...chilling,sometimes warm and can turn into adreline-rising.From the epic intro of the movie,to the very last scene of the frescoe on the ceiling(which has left some impact to me,it was just so powerful as a scene and I think I've even cried at the end one or two times).Soundtrack?Awesome.

    Bram Stoker's Dracula.That's the masterpiece.New generations who haven't seen that movie(let's put the book aside because they don't tend to read a lot)and think that Vampire movies are all like "WHOA DUDE THAT GUY WITH THE LEATHER JACKET SUCKED THAT GAL'S NECK!Oh and there's a werewolf there tooooo!"
    They need to see this movie.And here Garry Oldman say those famous lines "Velcome to my...home.I am...Drakula" or "MMmmm.....listen to them...the childrrrrren of the night!What...sweet music they make!"

    P.S. Mormon Porn?Tell Padme,how about Morporn?Or Pormon?
     
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    well, most of you can find my opinion of twilight in the 'why people hate twilight; thread, posted lots of reasons as to why it is bad there.

    But I did admit that I liked them in spite of my better judgment and taste in books. they are tripe, they will not stand the test of time in anyway. my facebook picture is a shirt that says 'and then Buffy staked Edward,t he end.' I love hating on it, it is shite. But twilight is also my guilty pleasure. I will not defend it in all of its flaws. But I do have a guilty pleasure in it in spite of its flaws.