Scenes most missed from the movie

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  1. jeremiah.l.burns

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    What scenes did you folks absolutely love in the book that you think should have been included in the movie?

    I'm not talking about scenes that merely weren't there, I mean scenes that weren't there, but perhaps should have been there.

    For example, many people complain about the lack of song and poetry in the movie, or about the omition of Tom Bombadil. In all honesty, I think these elements worked wonderfully in the book but would have made the movie drag, and really contributed nothing to the story as far as the movie goes. Tom Bombadil is a prime example of this. Think about it: in the book by this point, the small party of hobbits have already been chased by Ringwraiths, attacked by Old Man Willow, and a slurry of other dark and treacherous events. Tom Bombadil lended a bright sunny spot to break up all the tension. In the movie, however, things are much quicker paced, and therefore Bombadil is not needed.

    I, myself, would have loved to see the scene where Sam chucks an apple at, who was it?...Bill Ferny?...and pegs him square in the face.

    Or, perhaps, the scene involving the Barrow-Wights would have been a nice addition. The only problem here is that if the Wights were included, they couldn't have had a clean cut of Bombadil, since he indeed saved them.

    What are your thoughts?
     
  2. Tenaka

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    Well, this isnt really a scene, but what i missed what how Legolas acted in the book compared to the movie. His character was totally different in the way he acted compared to the movie. In TTT they started bringing some of Legolas's humor and remarks back.
     
  3. Eàmanë

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    I have to admit...I would have loved to see Tom and his rivermaiden(isn't that what she's called? I forget, i haven't read the book in awhile). But I understand why they weren't in there. But it's not just that of that scene I wanted to see...it was the whole lead-in, where they go through the forest and almost get trapped in the trees, and all that.
    But like I said, I understand why it wasn't there. But it would've been cool to see it.
     
  4. jeremiah.l.burns

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    I completely agree, Tenaka. Legolas certainly had a great deal more humor in the books than he did onscreen, particularly in the first film. But he hardly had any lines in the film period. Humerous or otherwise. This obviously expanded in The Two Towers , and I expect he'll come alot more to his true nature by the time we see The Return of the King . Although, keep in mind, The Return of the King was not that humerous in comparison with the other two books.
     
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    I hink it had been nice for them to show the entire proloque scene
    I know they filmed the scene where the last alliance marched on to Mordor, the gil-galad battle-scenes and even gg's death. The total usable material they shot for this scene lasted over 30 minutes. To show it all may be a bit too much but they should have showed us more than the 5 minute proloque scene they gave us. There was hardly a glimpse of the Noldorin high-king
    at all while he was the founder, commander in chief and most important figure of the l.aliance:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
     
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    I would actually have liked something to be added to a scene. The gift giving in Lothlorien was wonderful, and I was so excited they added it to the Extended Edition, but where was Boromir's gift?!?! I wanted to see the whole fellowship get their gifts and Sam to get the seeds/soil.
     
  7. jeremiah.l.burns

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    I forgot about the seeds! Those were rather important since they were used to revive the Shire.

    However, if rumors are true, then the "Scouring of the Shire" isn't going to be in the film anyway, and therefore the seeds won't be needed. How unfortunate would that be?
     
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    It is a shame, but there will be no Scouring of the Shire. :(

    This isn't really a scene, but I missed the felling of the passage of time. In the book a lot of time passes, while in the movie everything happens so fast..
     
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    ^^Me too. I think that the biggest disservice that Jackson does to the books (not that I'm some sort of Tolkien purist, I love the movies) is that the whole thing is made to look like the Quest is a short trip to the supermarket. No sense of how truly epic this journey is.

    And yes, the Scouring of the Shire would be a true indicator of this, of how much went on while the Hobbits were away...
     
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    They simple can't make it longer, they don't have the time for it. And be honest, would you like it to watch the Fellowship walking up a hill, coming down a hill, crossing a field, walking up another hill, and so on? Although I do agree with you (a bit :p), I think the scenes when you see them travelling are just long enough. It should have been a bit longer, but much longer would getting boring :p
     
  11. jeremiah.l.burns

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    I must agree with you at least to some degree. I agree that if the book had been transfered to the screen verbatim, then the movie-going audience would have become rather bored. I understand that the passage of time is a difficult thing to portray without it seeming cheaply done. But I do wish some sort of effort had been made.

    I mean, really, how many years were between the time when Gandalf left Frodo at the Shire and ultimately returned? Twenty years? It's been a couple years since I read "Fellowship", but I know it was a long time. They could have simply solved this through a single line, something along the line of, "It's been "x" number of years since Gandalf left, Sam. When will he return?" The grander scale of the amount of time Gandalf put into his research would have been captured a bit better, and they wouldn't have to show it physically in its entirety.

    At the same time, you are right. They can't show them walking up a hill, then back down the other side...then across the brook, then each and every stop they made for food, an Farmer Maggot and the Mushrooms, and Bobmadil, and Old man Willow,l etc. etc., etc.

    Overall, quite pleased with the editing.

    ~Jeremiah
     
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    Like jeremiah said, I think there should have been more songs and poetry. There are some really good ones in the series. :smurf:
     
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    While I agree that they couldn't show them "walking up and down every hill", do you notice that none of the characters make any reference to travel time frames?

    Hundreds of movies are made that span years without showing every hour of every day....

    How about "Hey Frodo, let's bring the Ring to Mordor, but hey, it's going to be a five year trip" or "Gee Galadriel, thanks for the fruit punch. We've been parched during that five-week march from the Mines of Moria"...

    How about Boromir, Pippin, Sam, Merry and Gimli aging a teeny bit?

    If Mordor and Hobbiton were truly as close as they make it seem, like a month long trip, the Ring would have been found already.

    Remember in the book that nobody past Bree really knew what a Hobbit looked like. I have a hard time believing that the races of Middle Earth would be that xenophobic as not to know what other species of people live within a year's journey from their home. That Sam would have never seen an Elf before...
     
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    Yeah in the movie, Sam was packed like right after Frodo woke up. In the book, he sat with Frodo and Bilbo and was always going here and there reading up on elves. I thought that kinda ruined the moment because supposedly he didn't pack until the day before they leave Rivendell. It's actually kind of sad...
     
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    i missed tom bombadil. i think that it would have been sweet if he was in it.
     
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    I could live without Tom; interesting character, but that whole part seemed a little bizarre to me.
     
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    Yeah, since they had to leave out some part, I'm glad it was Tom, because he wasn't terribly important. They could have cut out more important parts.

    I know they couldn't have shown them walking up every hill. But I agree with Skyanide they could have done SOMETHING to show the passage of time a bit better.
     
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    even though Tom wasn't THAT important, it would have been easier for people who saw the movie before they read the books to know that the ring isn't all powerful, there are still things out there that can resist it's power. And I can tell from expirience that those who saw the movie before they read the books get confused. If the ring is all powerful why can Tom Bombadil resist it? I know the answer, I'm just giving an example.
     
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    I missed the barrow wights how is merry going to destroy the witchking without an old dunedain blade?
     
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