Appaliq- Charlamenge can't be compaired to Robert, Charlamenge beats Robert in everything hands down. But the kings before him especially the Merovingian* kings(I think) their format for government is what I think GRRM based ASoIaF's government in Westrose even down to having a Hand rule for him. Basically my whole argument is that Robert was not a bad king. As a person Robert had his ups and downs with his peak being his rebellion and his downfall the hate of the Targyrans. His hate twards the targyrans is the same as most of our hate of the Freys, If you look at the thread Red Wedding Revenge, most people are pretty heartless twards the Frey's, and that is the same kind of mindset Robert had. But I still think that he was a Badass durring the war and I liked him alot. He was built for Fighting Drinking and Wenching which combined make a badass, but without the fighting it is just sad. Lets face it Robert wasn't a thinker he really should have been born a mercenary not a king. Lyannawolfblood- What could Robert have done to help the watch beyond voulenteering himself, Its not like he can swear in his army to the watch. There decline is due more to the mindset of the people, no one is willing to give up everything to protect the realm from ghosts, lets face it they have been stopping wildings for 1000 years and walking on the wall, so the decline was more due to the lack of need for the wall then who is ruleing the realm. And as for going to fight at the wall I wholeheartedly beleive that robert would have gone. You seem to suggest that he would not go because he was afraid of fighting the others but the reality is they would have asked him to come to defend against the united wilding and because he could kill the wildings with his hammer he would have answered the call. And as for Rhegars kids Robert did not kill them the Mountian did. The Martells never blaimed Robert for killing the kids so I dont think we should, while there is no arguing that he was completely callus twards their deaths he didn't order them killed. And his brothers never wanted him dead Renly worked to keep him alive and happy and Stannis was two rigid to even think about taking from his ELDER brother.