Roman arms and armour.

Discussion in 'General Weapons & Armour' started by finrod, Dec 14, 2003.

  1. byzantine warrior

    byzantine warrior Autokratos Konstantinou

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    yes i have ospry books cool name:D i have one on the byzantines im obsessed with culture sigh...
     
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    byzantine warrior Autokratos Konstantinou

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    I love collecting old stuff its just so cool when i went to mount athos I found a little piece of a bronze cup while walking it has a cool little design on it i need to order more ospry books..... oops forgot NO CASH:mad:
     
  3. finrod

    finrod Born to woe.

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    Same here.....
     
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    byzantine warrior Autokratos Konstantinou

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    have you been to rome? or Ravenna? cool Places Anyway the thing about roman armour i like is that it was made for efficiancy more then for looks (in some cases anyway;) )
     
  5. finrod

    finrod Born to woe.

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    I have been in Rome several times but never in Ravenna. Rome and Athens are the most wonderful cities I've seen, too bad I don't live near any of them.
     
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    finrod Born to woe.

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    I heard there are quite lovely examples of mosaic in Ravenna though.
     
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    byzantine warrior Autokratos Konstantinou

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    Yes bout the only reason i went I like athens but its not my fav city too modernized for me:D call me old fashioned if you like but thessaloniki is just the perfect blend of modern times and Old times BTW did you see the roman spear on my link?
     
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    Hey Finrod post a pic of your girlfriend.
     
  9. finrod

    finrod Born to woe.

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    Only if you're interested in purchasing her.

    i'll do that when i manage to get my scanner back up.
    i hate that thing, stupid piece of machinery also kept me from posting some
    renditions of my custom Anduril design.
     
  10. byzantine warrior

    byzantine warrior Autokratos Konstantinou

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    hate when that happens
     
  11. finrod

    finrod Born to woe.

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    Hey Byz. yes I saw the spear. great piece, it really looks historicaly accurate unlike
    some other spears I saw at other sites. I really hate seeing so many wonderful weapons
    after I just placed a expensive custom order as I simply cannot afford them. Man, I am thinking
    of selling a kidney or something to afford stuff like that.
     
  12. byzantine warrior

    byzantine warrior Autokratos Konstantinou

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    But then youd be bedridden and not be able to use it! anyway out of all the roman armour i like the sheilds the best
     
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    Which one cav or inf, and in case of inf would it be a republican or a imperial that you would prefer?

    Mine would be the Imperial inf shield, easier to handle (on the ground)
    My preferred roman weapon would be the spatha, but not when using an inf. shield..in that case I would go with the gladius for it easier to handle with his shorter blade.
    Another favorite would be the pilum when, those can take the enemies first line out without them even touching yours.

    Armor: lorica segmentata, Newstead type

    The only thing I hate about that period's gear are the damn sandals lol
     
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    dwarf tosser "What the Deuce?"

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    You know the shield in lotr kinda remind me of Roman shields. Except the part at helms deep where they were battering the wall with there shields covering them, that is a french tecniqe called the turtle. Whats so great about byzanteeeen anyway???j/k

    -dt
     
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    I'm not sure maybe my professors and books were all wrong there dt but I thought that was a Roman technique ;)
     
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    Gûd Daedheloth Foe of Morgoth's Realm

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    Only?!?!? Can you say "chafe"?!?!!?!? :eek:

    And yes, the turtle formation was definitely Roman. :)
     
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    you're right ofcourse Gud. I was trying to say that the lorica segmentata and typical roman helmets were of a later period, not to give a summing up of the complete roman equipment of the day.
     
  18. byzantine warrior

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    i would prefer the infantry pretorian guard sheilds
     
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    Well not exactly, for instance:
    The Romans marched in to Gaul under Julius Caesar with the Coolus type helmet and came back from the Gaul campaigns wearing the Gallic type.
    One of the advantages of the Roman military system over the others was adaptation.
    If they came up against an enemies that would have better equipment then them they would integrate that in there own army.

    Another great example is the gladius who founds it's origins in Spain, when the Romans came there they saw the slashing swords they were using weren't very handy when marching into battle in close formations.
    The Gladius was then adopted by the Romans for it was a much more usable short stabbing sword that could be used extremely well in between the shields when in formation, when there was no room to handle a slashing sword.
     
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    finrod Born to woe.

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    hmm, interesting. I really do have to let go of my precious medieval warfare obsession and concentrate on the ancient roman and greek a bit.
    BTW, my understanding is that there were several types of the Gladius short sword:
    you just mentioned the Gladius hispaniensis but there were several other types also
    do you no per chance why, when or were, for instance,the Mainz style was introduced? and also: what type of sword did the romans carry to battle before the Gallic wars? I recently studied several ancient pieces of roman military art of the battles of Zama and Cannae and found it interesting that none of either Hannibal's or Scipio's legionnares seem to have worn swords, at least not on the grave stele I got to study. Now I am wondering if the sword was even a common weapon in the earlier roman period.
     
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