Premarital sexual relations

Discussion in 'Every Day Debating' started by Tinuviel, Dec 15, 2004.

  1. Lady Cyllíeth

    Lady Cyllíeth WillExplodeUnderPressure

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    same here :)
     
  2. Loz1703

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    My humble opinion on the matter, as long as the act is between consenting adults, be they male or female then there is not a problem. Basically to me thats all there is to it, love and sex dont have to go hand in hand.
     
  3. Jendra

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    The way I see it, sex is the ultimate expression of love within marriage, one person giving their body to someone else. Can't take back anything.
     
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    Hahahaha, gold!
     
  5. OrcShaman

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    This should be on bilboards :D

    Best thing ever said; ladies please pay attention
     
  6. HumanInfiltrator

    HumanInfiltrator The Book club lady

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    What, we are all welcome too come and worship?
     
  7. Jendra

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    Don't think I'd want to...
     
  8. ero_senin

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    What is wrong with premarital sex anyway? Why is it look down upon? If sex is the ultimate act of love and the sex is bad then what does that say for the love?
     
  9. Jendra

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    Sex is the ultimate expression of love WITHIN MARRIAGE, not out of it, which is what I said.
     
  10. HumanInfiltrator

    HumanInfiltrator The Book club lady

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    Devil's Advocate: what if you believe that marriage is an archaic cultural symbol? Something that has no bearing on modern day relationships and what about those people who are not allowed by law to get married, must they stay celibate for life? What do you consider marriage anyway? Does it really begin and end with signing a piece of paper in church or a magistrates office?
     
  11. Jendra

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    I think it begins with the vows, not necessarily the paper. :)
     
  12. HumanInfiltrator

    HumanInfiltrator The Book club lady

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    Right so do the vows need a church, the family or the ceramony? Or does it need two people who love each other?
     
  13. Jendra

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    Well...yeah, to make it legally binding.
     
  14. Alchemist

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    Honestly I believe that the actual ceremony, the papers mean nada.
    Think of it, if you want to, back in the "bible days" or even Adam and Eve, they did not have ceremonies. Heck, half the time the man saw the woman he wanted and said "Your my wife".
    While ceremonies are nice, they are not needed.
    I beleive that as long as you both are "married" in your hearts, then that is good enough for God.
    Me and my wife waited untill actual ceremony was over, but thats just because I thought, since I waited this long, whats a few more months. We discussed this before the wedding that we both felt married already, and that we knew it would not be "sinful" to engage in sexual relations. But we still waited for the above reason.

    Its all about what is in your heart. I still beleive that sex should wait for marriage and should be (doesnt have to I dont force anyone to do anything) with one person, but ceramonies and paper do not a marriage make.
     
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    So then, what about God's other creatures? Dogs, cats, rabbits for example? Why is it that animals can have multiple mates and Christians claim that people are only allowed to have one?
    The only thing that god mentions about sex in the bible is Adultery. The meaning today has changed from the meaning in the past. Today it means a married person who has sex with another person other than their husband or wife. The Archaic meaning says that an Adulterer or Adulteress is someone, unmarried, who has sex with a married person which is quite the opposite. According to the meaning of Adultery as it was when the bible was written, which therefore can be the only meaning applied, extra-marrital sex is not a sin since a married person cannot commit adultery.

    I think the idea behind no-sex-before-marriage stems from the first Archaic rituals which involved a man (of Christian faith) marrying a virgin (as she is pure llike the mother Mary as the ritual states) and then consumated their vows making the marriage legally binding. This is not to say that both parties must be virgins at the time of the wedding ceremony and infact, most commonly the man was not. On the same note, a woman, who was not a virgin, was not allowed to be married.

    I don't really know where I'm going with this anymore so I'll end it here with these ides for everyone to think over
     
  16. Jendra

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    Humans are different than animals...we are more creatures of emotion than, say, a dog.

    An interesting example was given in a class a friend of mine is taking. If you take two pieces of wood and glue them together (with wood glue or something strong like that), then break them apart, the pieces aren't the same. They don't fit with any other random pieces of wood, just with each other. Humans are the same way.

    And if anything, adultery is selfish.
     
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    Sex is just as natural as drinking, eating or sleeping. I know when i'm thirsty i get mine:draught: , i don't wait until a ceremony is performed :D
     
  18. Jendra

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    Sex is a beautiful thing between a husband and wife. Honestly, I'm not too keen on the idea of sleeping around because it's "natural".
     
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    Your loss (j/k :D)
     
  20. Jendra

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    My gain, amigo. :)