Parallels between Harry Potter and Star Wars

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  1. Cascador

    Cascador Who's Anakin?

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    Stealing have you! Miss Rowling:p

    Orphaned by a Dark Lord


    Luke Skywalker and Harry Potter both grew up wistfully curious about the parents they never knew.

    Luke's mother, Padmé Amidala, had died when he was a newborn. Some believe she died of a broken heart after her husband, Anakin Skywalker, had spurned her love and turned to the dark side. Others, however, believed the truth to be far more sinister -- that Sith sorcery had somehow been the phantom menace behind her demise. Luke had no knowledge of his mother, nor of the great sadness she'd endured.

    Luke's father, a Jedi Knight, had grown obsessed with recurring nightmares of Padmé's death and given himself over to the dark side, desperate to keep her from dying. In so doing, he became Darth Vader, Dark Lord of the Sith, and the man who was Anakin ceased to exist. To protect him from his father's dark destiny, Luke was told Anakin had been a navigator on a spice freighter, and had died when Luke was a baby. It was many years before Luke learned the truth.

    James and Lily Potter, meanwhile, were killed by an ambitious, evil-minded wizard called Voldemort. The self-proclaimed Dark Lord executed the Potters with a killing curse when Harry was an infant, then tried to murder Harry as well, only to have the curse rebound, deflected by a magic far more powerful than even Voldemort's evil: Lily Potter's love for her son. Thereafter, Harry was known as The Boy Who Lived.

    As such, Harry knew little about his parents and wished he could be with them. It was only when Harry was older that he discovered the darker side of his father's personality: that James could sometimes be pompous and cruel, and often mistreated his classmate, Severus Snape. Like Luke, Harry was disillusioned at the news that the father he'd never known was not quite the man he'd imagined him to be. What's more, both youths were later visited by apparitions of their dead fathers -- Harry in the Mirror of the Erised and during the Triwizard Tournament, Luke during a celebration following the second Death Star's destruction.
     
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    Overread Wolfing it up! Staff Member

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    oh dear powers that be no!
    do not start something like this
    I can see this ending in tears - or at the least very long arguments!

    my view - I think its pulling at strings that are not really there
     
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    Meteorain Magical & Mystical

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    Yea I agree with that last statement. You can pretty much say any modern piece of work is a copy of an older one, just because it's very hard to create something entirely unique. I mean it's not impossible people can have similar backgrounds. Hell I bet a lot of people in real life have a very similar upbringing.
     
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    Cascador Who's Anakin?

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    Nah I'm not claiming she stole anything from star wars, but it's interesting to study though...

    Relative Obscurity


    As children, both Harry Potter and Luke Skywalker lived under the hidden protection of an aunt and uncle, longing for a better life.

    When Anakin Skywalker turned to the dark side, Jedi Masters Yoda and Obi-Wan Kenobi feared the disaster that could befall the galaxy if Anakin and his master, Emperor Palpatine, ever found Luke and his twin sister Leia. Luke and Leia were, therefore, separated at birth, and while Leia grew up a princess in the home of Alderaanian leader Bail Organa, Luke was sent to live with his uncle and aunt, Owen and Beru Lars, moisture farmers in the desert of Tatooine.

    Growing up with his aunt and uncle was not easy for Luke, for though he cared about them, and they for him, the life of a moisture farmer is often one of boredom, isolation and hard labor. But Luke endured countless hardships and disappointments, hoping one day to find a way "off this rock" so he could pursue a more fulfilling life among the stars.

    Vernon and Petunia Dursley were quite different from the Lars couple. Unlike Luke's aunt and uncle, the Dursleys treated their nephew Harry with open disdain and contempt, frequently badmouthing the memory of his deceased parents and never missing an opportunity to remind him that he was neither wanted nor part of their family.

    The loneliness and isolation Harry experienced in their home mirrored Luke's, nonetheless. Forced to sleep in a cupboard under the Dursleys' staircase for most of his childhood, Harry longed for the day when he would be old enough to move out of their house and make a better life for himself outside Number 4, Privet Drive.
     
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    Overread Wolfing it up! Staff Member

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    think is I have seen similar concepts in other works as well;
    Lord of the Rings - the tale of Aragon, raised by elves - though in his case I can't remember what killed his parents
    Pawn of Prophecy - Eddings - young boy raised by aunt (ok its more than that but I have only read book one)

    I think the idea of a person losing all their family and then going out for revenge of that loss is a common theme in imagination.
     
  6. Cascador

    Cascador Who's Anakin?

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    but there's a lot more, I'm just not posting it all at once... There's a lot Harry has in common with Luke:

    "V" for Villain

    The main villains of the Star Wars and Harry Potter universes often change their names, personalities and even appearances upon turning to the dark side.


    When Darth Bane created the Sith Rule of Two, he resurrected the ancient custom of changing one's name upon assuming the Dark Lord title. A thousand years later, that practice was still in use when Darth Sidious (the former Senator Palpatine of Naboo) chose apprentices to carry on the Sith legacy. After the death of his previous apprentice Darth Maul, Sidious seduced Anakin Skywalker to replace him, bestowing upon him the name Darth Vader. Together, Vader and the newly-proclaimed Emperor Palpatine then hunted down and killed his fellow Jedi.

    Near-fatally injured during a lightsaber duel with his former mentor, Vader was encased in a cybernetic life-support suit, completely obscuring his form. This transformed him from a once-handsome, loving youth to a fearsome, mechanical embodiment of evil. Palpatine, meanwhile, in a manipulative scheme to gain the leverage needed to wipe out the Jedi and forge a Sith Empire, claimed that he'd been disfigured in a Jedi coup when in truth his features were scarred by his own dark side energies.

    In the Harry Potter universe, Harry's primary nemesis was once named Tom Marvolo Riddle. Tom and Ani were both the products of miserable childhoods -- one a lonely orphan, the other a slave. Rescued from destitution by Albus Dumbledore and invited to join the Hogwarts wizarding school, Riddle was consumed by dark desires and a lust for power. Pursuing ancient knowledge condemned as dark magic, the youth changed his named to Lord Voldemort (a moniker not dissimilar to Vader's) and forever altered wizard history.

    Leading an army of followers known as his Death Eaters, Voldemort slew many fellow wizards in an attempt to conquer wizarding society and subjugate Earth's muggle (non-wizard) population. And as with Vader and Sidious, his descent into evil altered his appearance from handsome to hideous. Riddle's once-attractive, boyish face became pale, skull-shaped and snake-like. His evil countenance was so feared, in fact, that upon his death he was known only, in whispered tones, as He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named.
     
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    Cascador Who's Anakin?

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    Who Wants to Live Forever?

    The Emperor and Voldemort were both obsessed with immortality, eventually returning from death to continue their quest for eternal life and unlimited power.

    Unbeknown to the galaxy, Senator (later, Emperor) Palpatine was a Sith Master capable of unspeakable evil. And among the forbidden knowledge he pursued was the ability to cheat death and attain immortality. At his secret laboratories on Byss and elsewhere, Palpatine began extensive research into the possibility of creating clones of himself, into which he could transfer his essence at the moment of death using long-forgotten Sith life-extension techniques.

    Vader betrayed Palpatine in Return of the Jedi, throwing the Emperor to his death in the second Death Star's reactor core. Most of the Emperor's minions abandoned him following his demise, failing to do all they could to hasten his resurrection, but a few, such as Executor Sedriss, remained loyal. Finally, six years after his demise, the Emperor defied death once more, returning to the living plane (in the Dark Empire comic-book miniseries) and attempting to retake the galaxy once more. A great war erupted, the fate of the galaxy hanging in the balance, until his spirit was expunged for good.

    Voldemort had similar aspirations of immortality, though his method for attaining eternal life was decidedly more grisly. By murdering others, Voldemort managed to split his soul into seven pieces, each of which he hid within a separate ordinary household item -- a diary and a locket, for instance -- magically protected for safe-keeping. These items, once possessed with a soul-portion, were known as Horcruxes, and were nearly impossible to destroy. After Voldemort died trying to kill Harry Potter, most of his followers abandoned him, just as Palpatines' had, failing to do all they could to resurrect their leader. Only a few, such as Peter Pettigrew and Lucius Malfoy, remained loyal.

    In both series, a prophecy predicted the end of the respective Dark Lord at the hands of another character, and in each case, the prophecy was fulfilled. Anakin Skywalker, believed to be The Chosen One who would destroy the Sith and bring balance to the Force, eventually cast off the dark side's pall and killed the Emperor, redeeming himself before dying a Jedi once more. Harry Potter, meanwhile, foretold to give his own life to destroy Voldemort, embarked on a harrowing journey to locate and eradicate all of the Horcruxes, then kill his parents' murderer once and for all.
     
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    Overread Wolfing it up! Staff Member

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    I could also add The Dark Crystal to that last list of comparisions;
    the search for dominance
    the fear of death
    prophecy of end at the hands of chosen one's
     
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    Cascador Who's Anakin?

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    Well the Dark Crystal wouldn't be a surprise, we also thought it was very similar to the story of the classics, maybe because of Frank Oz influence lol
     
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    Cascador Who's Anakin?

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    Romancing the Stars

    Luke Skywalker and Harry Potter both had a male friend and female friend who initially annoyed each other and bickered often, but ultimately fell in love and got married after hiding their true feelings for years.

    When Luke first met Leia Organa, her beauty left him breathless. Luke pined over her for some time, unaware she would turn out to be his sister, and that the bond between them would evolve more into a subconscious awareness of their connection within the Force than mere infatuation.

    Thus, when mutual attraction between Leia and Han Solo became evident (albeit veiled behind antagonism), it was only natural that Luke's initial reaction would be jealousy. During the three-year wait for The Empire Strikes Back, fans hotly debated whom Leia would end up with, and when she chose Han, it seemed the natural choice, despite their obvious differences -- Leia was educated and haughty, with an air of aristocracy, while Han was a "scruffy-looking nerf-herder" who'd grown up on the streets. In the Star Wars novels, Leia and Han eventually married and raised three children.

    Harry Potter's best friends at Hogwarts were Ron Weasley, a scruffy teen raised in poverty, and Hermione Granger, who tended to flaunt her vast knowledge and lose her patience with others. Although Ron did not like Hermione much when they first met, in time their friendships with Harry spilled over to each other as well, though their bickering never ceased. Harry's friendship with Hermione was never of a romantic nature, but that didn't stop other wizards (and fans) from predicting the two would one day hook up.

    When Ron began showing deeper feelings for Hermione, readers offered their predictions as to who would end up with the bookish young witch. And as with Han and Leia, once it became clear Hermione returned Ron's interest, the pairing made perfect sense. The final book revealed that the couple got married and had two children together.
     
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    Cascador Who's Anakin?

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    Dead Mentors, Dementors and Frozen Friends

    Being associated with either Luke Skywalker or Harry Potter can be hazardous -- both had teachers who were murdered, both had friends who were frozen by the enemy and both had family members who were caught in the crossfire

    In the course of the Star Wars films, Luke was certainly no stranger to the loss of those close to him. Not long after discovering the charred bodies of his aunt and uncle, slaughtered by Darth Vader's stormtroopers, he also watched helplessly as Vader slew Obi-Wan Kenobi, his teacher and, at the time, the only remaining semblance of family in his life. Luke was devastated by Kenobi's loss, but the Jedi Master managed to continue helping him from the grave, returning in spirit form to lead him to Yoda on Dagobah.

    Three years later, in an attempt to capture Luke at Cloud City, Vader set an elaborate trap to freeze him in carbonite so he could deliver his son to the Emperor. First, however, he needed to make sure the freezing process wouldn't kill him -- so he froze Han Solo as a test case. Han would remain frozen for nearly a year before his friends could rescue him.

    In later years, after finding love and raising a family with his wife, Mara Jade, Luke faced his greatest loss of all when his nephew, Jacen Solo -- who'd turned to the dark side -- killed Mara by stabbing her with a poison dart.

    Harry Potter also faced more than his share of death. His godfather, Sirius Black, was murdered by Voldemort's Death Eaters during an assault on the Ministry of Magic. The following year, when Voldemort infiltrated Hogwarts and attempted to take over the school, Death Eaters killed his trusted mentor, Albus Dumbledore, before Harry's very eyes.

    A few years earlier, Harry nearly lost his friend Hermione as well. Voldemort had arranged for the Chamber of Secrets to be opened, releasing a basilisk to prey upon the students of Hogwarts. Hermione and others stumbled upon the creature and fell into a catatonic state, which left them frozen for quite some time.

    Harry's adoptive family was also affected by their association with the boy, as his cousin Dudley was attacked by wraith-like creatures known as dementors. All three were later forced to go into hiding when the Death Eaters marked the family for destruction.
     
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    Overread Wolfing it up! Staff Member

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    sorry - but that last one falls over way way to much!
    being assicitated with the hero is nearly always the last place any sane person wanting live wants to be:
    Wolf's Rain
    Elfin Lied - now that is a bloody place!
     
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    Cascador Who's Anakin?

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    Like Father, Like Son

    Harry Potter and Luke Skywalker, like their fathers before them, were both gifted pilots who displayed special talents long before they knew of their hidden abilities.

    Neither Luke nor Harry was aware of their respective powers until a wizard entered their lives to reveal their destinies and offer a chance to become something great. Even before either learned their true potential, however, both showed signs of exceptional abilities when they were still children.

    As a teen, Luke was an amazingly skilled pilot, able to race his T-16 skyhopper with expert precision, even when threading the treacherous Stone Needle of Beggar's Canyon. Like his father before him -- Anakin was already a champion Podracer before the age of 10 -- the future Jedi had an innate ability to master the controls of most vehicles. Like his dad, Like was able to pilot an X-wing almost immediately upon joining the Rebellion, despite his inexperience with such a vehicle.

    Harry, too, showed signs he was special from an early age. Without understanding how, Harry sometimes made things happen just by thinking about them. When his uncle and aunt brought him and his bullyish cousin Dudley to the zoo, for instance, Harry somehow made the glass wall of a snake cage momentarily disappear, causing Dudley to fall inside. It was that day that Harry realized he could talk to snakes -- an early sign of his personal connection with Lord Voldemort.

    Like Luke, Harry seemed to have an inborn ability to fly. Harry flew his broomstick like a master the very first time he ever mounted one, enabling him to quickly become a champion Seeker in the popular wizarding sport of Quidditch. This skill he inherited from his father, who had also been a Quidditch champion during his days at Hogwarts.
     
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    also simlar to the following tales:
    Magician - Raymond E. Fiest
    The magician's Guild - Trudi Canavan
    Pristess of the white - Trudi Canavan
    Dragonflight - Anne McCaffrey - these last two even have the flying element as well
     
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    Cascador Who's Anakin?

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    Love Hurts

    Both Luke Skywalker and Harry Potter suffered a string of physical injuries that left them permanently scarred.

    As noted, the villains of Star Wars and the Harry Potter series often ended up disfigured in the pursuit of evil. However, the same can also be said of Luke and Harry themselves, for defeating evil took a heavy physical toll of them both.

    After joining the Rebellion, Luke eventually ended up on the ice planet planet Hoth. There, while on patrol, he was mauled and very nearly eaten by a savage Wampa. Luke managed to sever the creature's arm and escape out into the frigid night, but at a severe cost: His face was badly scarred from the Wampa's claws, and not even submersion in bacta healing fluids could completely remove the evidence of the near-fatal encounter.

    Shortly thereafter, Luke confronted Darth Vader on Cloud City. There, Vader revealed the secret Kenobi had never told him -- that he was Luke's father -- but only after severing the youth's hand in a vicious lightsaber duel. Luke survived the ordeal and was later fitted with a mechanical hand, a constant reminder of his potential to fall to the dark side like his father.

    The Boy Who Lived also carried a scar from a near-fatal encounter with a Dark Lord. When Lord Voldemort tried to murder the still-infant Harry Potter, his spell backfired, killing Voldemort instead. Harry survived, but the attack branded him with a lightning bolt-shaped forehead scar, making him immediately recognizable throughout the wizard world.

    In later books, Harry received additional scars when Dolores Umbridge, Hogwarts' cruel temporary headmaster, magically burned the words "I must not tell lies" into the flesh of his right hand. This was done to punish him for ignoring the official Ministry stance on Voldemort by refusing to stop telling others the Dark Lord had returned.
     
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    Cascador Who's Anakin?

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    Size Matters Not

    Star Wars and Harry Potter both featured a wide variety of height-challenged characters and species -- and Warwick Davis portrayed many of them.

    The Star Wars universe is inhabited by a vast range of alien races of every type imaginable. Among them are numerous beings below average human height. The most obvious examples include Jawas, Ewoks and Yoda's people, but there are many others as well, including Ugnaughts, Ranats, Teeks, Snivvians and Lanniks. Short aliens abound, and in the Star Wars universe, as Yoda would say, size matters not. Most have been portayed on film by children or adult actors of short stature, though Yoda has been variously brought to life using CGI, a puppet and an actor.

    The same is true of the Harry Potter books and films, in which goblins and House-Elfs are also both portrayed as small creatures. Onscreen, Dobby and other House-Elfs have been created using CGI effects, but actors have been hired to play the goblins.

    The connecting link is Warwick Davis, a featured player in both film series. The diminutive actor is best known as the young Ewok, Wicket W. Warrick, in Return of the Jedi and the two Ewok television films. But he has also played a number of other Star Wars roles, including Anakin's Rodian friend Wald, a spectator at the Podrace, a passerby in Mos Espa and even (during one scene in The Phantom Menace) Yoda.

    To Harry Potter fans, Davis is a trio of characters: Professor Filius Flitwick, the white-haired charms teacher; the goblin teller at Gringots Bank; and the choir conductor from later films (credited as "Wizard" in The Prisoner of Azkaban but listed as Flitwick in later entries, despite their completely different appearances).
     
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    Cascador Who's Anakin?

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    Your Father Wanted You to Have This

    Harry Potter and Luke Skywalker both received mystical heirlooms left behind by their late fathers, presented to them by elderly mentors.

    When Ben Kenobi found Luke Skywalker lying injured in the Jundland Wastes, the victim of a Tusken Raider attack, he brought the youth back to his hovel and revealed Luke's special nature -- like his father before him, Luke had the potential to learn the ways of the Force and become a great Jedi.

    What's more, he offered Luke a gift--his father's lightsaber -- claiming Anakin had wanted him to have it when he was old enough. Like many things Kenobi told Luke, that would later turn out to be true only from a certain point of view, as Anakin did not actually make such a request. Rather, the old hermit had held onto the 'saber after Anakin's fall from the light, intending one day to give it to his pupil's son to honor the man Anakin had once been.

    Likewise, after beginning his tutelage at Hogwarts, Harry was amazed to find a gift waiting for him on Christmas morning -- his father's invisibility cloak, given to him by Dumbledore. The cloak had been passed down through Harry's ancestors and, as with Anakin's lightsaber, was not with James' belongings when he died.

    These gifts from their fathers saved Luke and Harry's live on numerous occasions, helping ensure that both would remain The Boys Who Lived.
     
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    Jingojolene Wayfarer, heartlander

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    I definitely agree xD

    But there are parallels between Potter and Luke Skywalker xD