Opinions on A Feast for Crows [Spoilers]

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  1. Ilaelin

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    Yep, me too!
    Does anyone have any theories about what happened to Mycella? Is she dead or dying, no nose, no ear? Did it go into specifics and I just over looked it?
     
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    (See, this is why we should have a group reread :D)

    From "The Princess in the Tower", page 598 (US Hardcover):


    Arianne was almost afraid to ask. "Myrcella. Is she...?"

    "...dead? No, though Darkstar did his best. All eyes were on your white knight so no one seems quite certain just what happened, but it would appear that her horse shied away from his at the last instant, else he would have taken off the top of the girl's skull. As it is, the slash opened her cheek down to the bone and sliced off her right ear. Maester Caleotte was able to save her life, but no poultice or potion will ever restore her face. She was my ward, Arianne. Betrothed to your own brother and under my protection. You have dishonored all of us." [Prince Doran said].
     
  3. K'shar

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    hmmmm I understand he's upset bout Myrcella being his ward but did he really have any intentions of marrying Myrcella to his family? No. He's planning on slaughtering them all by aligning himself with Targaryen. So I guess it's ok to dishonour urself but only if u kill everyone?
     
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    No, I think he intended Myrcella to marry Trystane, although that IS debatable, I suppose.
     
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    Thanks for the reminder LDH I knew I read it but couldn't remember exactly. As for Doran I thought he wanted to marry Mycella to Trystane also? I do think that he has something up his sleeve or maybe he's just a big fat coward? Don't know...that was the first impression I had when reading about him but as with all GRRM's characters all is not what it seems!
     
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    Why would he want to marry his son to a house he plans on bringing down? "Vengeance. Justice. Fire and Blood" anyone remember this?
     
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    How about keep your friends close keep your enemies even closer? That's the only thing I can think of.
     
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    lol. Good point but it makes absolutely no sense for Doran to actually marry Trystane to Myrcella. There is no gain from it. Having her is good as a hostage but he knows that Targaryens coming back means only that all Lannisters etc. are going to be brought to justice hence Myrcella will be worthless after the war.
     
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    You're welcome :)

    I think that the Dorne chapters are the best. So much speculation. :p

    But remember what might yet happen - Arianne will be Princess of Dorne, and if Quentyn reaches Dany safely (that's how I read Doran's hints, anyway), he will have a position of power with her. If/when Trystane marries Myrcella, they can claim Casterly Rock for their own as well.

    Who do you think the dragons' three heads will be? Dany, obviously, and probably Jon, but who is the third? Baby Aegon? Victarion? Quentyn? Tyrion?

    And I also found this interesting: GRRM stated that Rhaenys is dead, but in the chapter The Soiled Knight, page 188 (USA), I read something very intriguing:

    "Only a beast would harm a little girl." [Arys said.]

    "My sister Elia had a little girl as well. Her name was Rhaenys. She was a princess too." The prince sighed. "Those who would plunge a hand into Princess myrcella do not bear her any malice, no more than Ser Amory Lorch did when he killed Rhaenys, if indeed he did."

    Any speculations?
     
  10. Mathias Tanavar

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    I thihnk he meant If Amory killed Rhaenys,not if Rhaenys is dead
     
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    Exactly Mathias. totally agree.
    As for using Myrcella as a tool to Casterly Rock that is very plausible.
     
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    But didn't Tywin confirm that it was Amory who killed Rhaenys? Or did I misread that?
     
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    Tywin isn't exactly the most honest man in the westeros is he?
     
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    No, but I'm fairly sure that he'd be honest to his own son. I think that Tywin and Tyrion were talking about Oberyn Martell's coming to King's Landing, and Tywin mentioned in passing that Amory killed Rhaenys.
     
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    I met the author at a convention in illinois a couple years ago..My friend got a couple books signed..he is a huge fan of his.
     
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    Just cuz Tywin told one of his sons doesn't mean that Martell is going to believe it if he hears it. Believing anything a Lannister tells you especially whn Tywin is the Lannister in question tends to be detrimental to the longevity of ones life.
     
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    But of course. :D It's Tywin, after all...

    Anyway, I agree with your arguments, but I just found that bit interesting. BTW, awesome theme set you got there! :)
     
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    I know. Ilaelin did a fantastic job. I'm totally grateful and wow. Like wow man.
     
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    Although Eddard looks a little fat to me. ;) If that IS Eddard...
     
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    Think its cos hes leanin back.... or he might just be fat :p