Movie Swords and Swordfighting

Discussion in 'Historical Re-enactment' started by Gavaha, Oct 20, 2003.

  1. Gavaha

    Gavaha Art House Member

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    Ever seen a movie and go "sweet" and think how cool it would be to learn that?

    Well, most of it doesn't work. I know some of you know that, but it is a good thing to know that you shouldn't base anything really off of movies, they are made to be appealing to the eye and are mostly just flashy moves.

    Also, some swords can be totally off, either by size, historicly, usuage and so on.

    Though if you found a movie that is pretty realistic do post.

    This is up to discussion and comments. What are your experiences? What are your opinions?
     
  2. Bahamuth

    Bahamuth The Dark Raver

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    Yeah. But it's awsome how some people can perform some movie tricks for real. It's more awesome when somebody tries it but fails and creates a dissaster :gbounce:
     
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    Scrinlord Dark Lord of Guppies

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    Well, the Last Samurai had fairly realistic sword-fighting.

    Personally, when the movie of Final Fantasy 7 comes out, I want to see how the hell it looks for Cloud to be swinging around his sword. That thing is just nuts.
     
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    Bahamuth The Dark Raver

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    Wahahaha, I wonder how heavy such a sword would be :D
     
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    Scrinlord Dark Lord of Guppies

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    That sword is just insane, brobably about 30 pounds or so. No one could swing that around for long.
     
  6. waenlotien

    waenlotien Healer/ Magicuser

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    I liked the swordfighting in the old movie Shogun.
    I also liked the fights on Pirates of the Caribbean.
    But it would be really cool to have the boomerang styled circle sword that Zena has LOL
     
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    That thing would be more dangerous then usefull. hehehe LOL
     
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    waenlotien Healer/ Magicuser

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    Not if you knew how to use it, besides don't you want your weapon to be dangerous to the opponets? hehe
     
  9. Kinslayer

    Kinslayer Warrior of Rohan

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    I can tell you for fact after watching just about every hollywood Knight swing a sword that all that action I loved so much is soooo false!!! When I went to my first SCA fighter practice thats what I expected to see but our fights rarley last more then 30 sec. Granted I dont agree that some stuff is called a KILL! when I dont think the blow would penetrate the armor but they are very worried about saftey! It's funny to see thier expresions when I tell them about my civil war reenacting days and our cavalry charges with STEEL in our hands!!! and believe it or not no one ever got hurt!!! The closest was probably me and I deserved it trying a stunt that I read about Napolean's calalry using.: Firing your pistol in one hand brandishing your sabre in the other and holding your reins with your teeth!!!! FRIENDS DO NOT TRY THIS AT HOME!!!!!:)
    Yes I still have my teethe but barely
     
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    waenlotien Healer/ Magicuser

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    ouchy!!!! what were you thinking?? you silly man LOL

    btw, happy belated birthday
     
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    Wahahaha, sounds like a good way to feel some pain dude
     
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    Scrinlord Dark Lord of Guppies

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    Yeah yeah, that sounds painful.
     
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    I'm with Kinslayer. Since joining my re-enacting group, all the movies you used to think were cool very quickly become disappointing if you see them again.

    One of the reasons I love the LOTR movies is because the swordfights are, for the most part, done very realistically. It is a fantasy movie so there are going to be some fancy moves, but most of it is just no-nonsense hack and slash, but not to the point of overexposing yourself.
    I especially love Aragorn's style for that reason - he's no fuss, no fanciness, he just grabs his sword with both hands and starts chopping. I love the way they incorporated kicks and punches for the close fighting as well. If you're within range you'll attack your enemy with whatever you've got!
    Taking on 100 Uruk-Hai single-handedly is another matter, but hey, it's the movies :)

    I also found The Last Samurai to be very good. No nonsense, just straight fighting that only lasts mere seconds. As Kin said, a "real" fight is surprisingly brief! Especially if you're using razor-sharp steel and not wearing armour. The first serious cut would incapacitate you with the pain, and then you're dead!
    That ninja attack scene was awesome, I loved it.
     
  14. Lady Swartt Sixclaw

    Lady Swartt Sixclaw New Member

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    I think the Lord of the Rings had good swordfighting. It was flashy but realistic, whithout all that spinning, backflip,jedi stuff.
     
  15. aaron.j.cypher

    aaron.j.cypher Aaron, King of the Flakes

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    I thought that Lord of the Rings was spectacular in the way of swordfighting. That is kind of general, but it works.

    I am trying to find a place that I can learn to fight at, do you guys have any websites?
     
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    Scrinlord Dark Lord of Guppies

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    What kind of fighting? Unarmed or with weapons, and if with weapons, what kind of weapons?

    Also, why do you want to learn to fight? Is it for fun/sport or for self defence?
     
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    aaron.j.cypher Aaron, King of the Flakes

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    Pertaining to the comment of Lord of the Rings swords, I would say swords. I was trained, however, someone who does sword fight training for theatrical plays. Although it wasn't the same due to the fact that it was all choreographed. But it is safe to say that I have wielded a sword in hand before. That was also a pretty general question.

    I don't know as I would want to learn how to sword fight for self-defence. I would like to, however, learn it as a past-time.
     
  18. waenlotien

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    Do you have a re-inactment group in your area. Especially the SCA ( www.sca.org)
    They are good for learning how to fight medevil ways.
     
  19. aaron.j.cypher

    aaron.j.cypher Aaron, King of the Flakes

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    I believe that we do have a group like that here somewhere. But we do have something over here called the Renaissance Leaf Festival. I do plan on going to that over the summer though.
     
  20. Orkin

    Orkin The Fighters Guide House Member

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    My problem with Aragorn's longsword technique in LOTR is that when he was against armored Uruk-Hai, he still kept hacking away, but with foes armored like that (spotty plate) you'd be scoring mostly with thrusts.

    The Seven Samurai had the best katana action, as did Yojimbo and Sanjuro.

    I liked the swordwork that Brad Pitt did in Troy, especially against Hector! Wow! Teach me some O those moves! :)