Discussion in 'Polls' started by Foinikas, Jun 17, 2009.
I dont think shes knows much about militaries.
I would probably assume the best military comes from the country that has won the most wars.
If you are implying that America has won the most wars,just asking that,then America has the youngest history from all these countries in the list.
Russia has fought against gigantic enemies like Napoleon's Grande Armee and Hitler's Wehrmacht and stood its ground although with terrible losses.India too has had lots of wars...Britain too...has own ridiculously many victories.
No I wasn't implying anything.
It wouldn't be bad if you implied it either,I just wanted to clear that up in my previous post.
And well...we also have to pay attention to the quality of the equipment of an army.Because for example an army can have 1,500 tanks and the another one 800.The first one could have T-55 and Type 69 tanks and the second one Challenger 2 or M1A1 Abrams.So the second one is better.
Or an army could have thousands of tanks,armored vehicles and artillery but no good quality AA weapons or air force.So an enemy army with few tanks and artillery but a normal or good air force let's say 20-30 attack helicopters and about a 100 fighting jets,could easily smash the first army.
And of course there's always the matter of good leadership.Remember the Russian army in the Chechenya war in the late 90's.It was crushed because of stupid decisions and poor leadership,not because it lacked the manpower or because of low quality equipment.
The same with the German army during world war 2, their leaders were so preoccupied with creating a Jew free Europe, that they were wasting so many forces in death camps, patrolling streets, controlling the ghettos etc. if they had concentrated on the war and used all their troops in fighting then the war may have been won by them, but it seemed in their mind that 6 million Jews and about another 2 million gypsies, political prisoners, disabled people etc, were more of a threat.
Plus they didn't care opening so many fronts and having so many enemies -_-
They just went on and on and on until they opened 3 fronts.You can't really fight when you have as allies Italy(in Europe).Even if you squeeze out Romania,Hungary,Bulgaria to gather armies they're like...worthless.No motive,poor leadership and no german weapons.Doomed from the beginning!
Warrior Squirrel what do you have to say about the war between and Americans and Japs?
Its very true, another thing about them is that they were so stubborn that they could never see themselves losing, they were so far up their own asses that they thought fate was with them and it would just all work out for them, they didn't really ever work hard at all.
That was Hitler!From the moment he started meddling into the affairs of the generals everything started going wrong!
Hitler's declaration of war against the United States on 11 December 1941, four days after the Empire of Japan's attack on Pearl Harbor, Hawaii and six days after Nazi Germany's closest approach to Moscow, set him against a coalition that included the world's largest empire (the British Empire), the world's greatest industrial and financial power (the United States), and the world's largest army (the Soviet Union).
And with all that "to the last man and the last bullet" strategy in the USSR...entire divisions were lost :/
They should have gone back to defending the borders of Deutschland instead of marching into the USSR and trying to defend France :S
Very true though Britain had been Germany's enemy since 3 September 1939.
You have to think of the propaganda implications of suddenly abandoning this. Their whole use of those people's as scapegoats was part of their control over the people's.
Oh yes I know that too, they bred fear in their own people.
Do you think the Germans still make the best tanks and artillery?
I wouldn't know, do they?
Yeah well the Leopard 1 tank is a very good tank although it's getting a bit old now but it still is a very good tank at least for the western world armies that are using it and the Leopard 2 tank is one heck of a good MBT.
Especially the latest version of it,the Leopard 2A6 tank is probably among the top 5 best tanks of the world.Canadians and Danes using the Leopard 2 in Afghanistan have praised it and in Greece we got 170 Leopard 2A6 HEL tanks which are considered top class.
Apart from that the Germans still build some very good armored vehicles and artillery like the PhZ 2000 (considered one of the best self-moving artillery in the world).
Many European countries like Norway,Sweden,Finland,Denmark,Spain,Portugal,Netherlands,Greece and even Turkey use the Leopard 1 and Leopard 2 MBTs.
Check the video:
And especially this one about the Canadian army's Leopard 2A6 CAN which explains its capabilities:
You would do very well in Intelligence lol. Interesting videos.
The Tiger Tanks were very much feared, my great uncle used to blow them up.
Yeah the Tiger tanks were the best tanks in WWII.Especially the King Tiger...that was the best of the best!
Well thanx,I just like talking about such stuff.Maybe I don't know much about the Air Force or Navy but I know some things about numbers and quality of the army that I've read in various magazines,websites and seen on documentaries
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