Legolas the SuperElf vs. the Mumak

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  1. The Archangel

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    meh, it was a good scene, and i enjoyed it. though when legolas swung into the saddle infront of gimli i was like wat the...
     
  2. Anduril

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    I liked it too. I wonder how it would have looked if Orlando Bloom did it.
     
  3. Gûd Daedheloth

    Gûd Daedheloth Foe of Morgoth's Realm

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    I doubt he could have done it, at least not like that, and definitely not with a broken rib.
     
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    I think its possible, it just takes extreme skill, timing and concentration to do most of his stunts. It's like that honda advert, with all the bits knocking eachother, its almost impossible to do in one try, but there is the chance of doing it, especially if your a heroic elf!.
     
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    Actually, I think if PJ didn't, someone from WETA or the animators would have, considering how much they looked into anatomy and the like when figuring out Gollum. If they worried about how muscles and bones would affect Gollum's face as he talked, might they not consider where the bones and other structures were and where Legolas' (and the other) arrows hit?

    I agree with Mubu, that I don't think a human could have done it. How focused and alert can a human be? I mean think of that situation: there's arrows flying around, there's moving bodies moving around, there's sounds, there's sights, there's people trying to kill you, there's gravity and wind resistance and there's your weapons... and you're climbing up with scant purchase... I've still only seen it once, so I'll leave it there before I get too far ahead of myself, heh.

    I liked the scene. It let Legolas show some of his quality, hehe, since it was hardly shown as something other than his fighting prowess and his having keen senses. Go Legolas! :D And the counting and Gimli's comment was good, heh.
     
  6. Anduril

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    I don't know. There were some pretty amazing men in The Silmarillion. Especially when Beren jumped on the horse. That was a great part.
     
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    I liked it tbh, however it reminds me of Spiderman :)
     
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    I was just trying to defend the believability of the sequence. A man could do it with determination, skill and concentration in surplus and with a lot of practice, so it is doable. But if you want it done first time round in the heat of battle, you call an elf.
     
  9. Anduril

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    I've said it before and I'll say it again. I'll take Legolas over Lara Croft any day.
     
  10. Shinagani

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    Actually at Amon Hen there were probably a lot more than 100 Orcs, I would guess over twice that, because Eomer attacked the Orc camp with over 120 mounted men and he lost 15 so that would take much more then 100(probably 60 after Amon Hen) Uruks.
     
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    Remember that more orcs joined them from Mordor and Moria later.
     
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    *nodnod* :draught:

    Hear hear! :D
     
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    Ok, im a bit late in this thread so this is going to be so late. From other books that I have read with elves in them, they tend to show off, although they dont mean to, specially some of the older ones. Legolas, being a prince, likes to flaunt his skills, the whole mounting the horse scene, that was done because there is not really any practical way to mount a horse at full speed that has someone else riding it. The whole slidding on the shield scene, if the elf is old enough, then yes, the elf could pull that off. I dont have any real comments on the mormakil scene, but i just couldnt resist dishing out some information.
     
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    I thought the horse-mounting scene looked pretty fake. I wish they had been able to actually do it with Orlando. Too bad he broke his rib.
     
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    Gimli should have hooked the beak of one of his axes around Legolas's neck and heave him onto the horse that way. And I still think it would have been super-cool if Gimli could have been tossed onto the mumak and take it down by himself.
     
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    It would have continued their play on the dwarf tossing line.
     
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    I personally thought the whole Legolas jumping on the horse scene was really good CGI I really didn't notice anything fake about it. However the scene of Legolas jumping off the Troll's back in Moria was terrible.
     
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    Well, believe it or not, the Legolas on the troll was the real Legolas. The only thing about him that was fake (besides the troll) was that his legs were CG. But as for the horse jump, overall, I thought it looked very realistic except that he didn't seem to move as if he was real.
     
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    It really looks like the last bit's all CGI maybe I'll have to go back and re-watch it...in slo-mo!
     
  20. Anduril

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    Well, that's what they said in the commentary. And in the scene with the mumak, I could tell that the Legolas on screen was fake. But when it moved in for the close-up I couldn't tell where the transition was. That is great special FX.