Knowing your dead while swordfighting

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  1. Gavaha

    Gavaha Art House Member

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    Of course I don't mean in real swordfighting!

    I am talking about while practice fighting someone else. When your are fighting your should be able to tell your death, weather a blow will kill you. If it glances your hip, you can usually keep on going on ect. This is the kind of death I mean. Not if you are going to when a battle or not, thats not the kind of knowing your dead I am talking about. This is a important factor to swordfighting. Please do consider when you are hit wether you are dead or not, becuase lying about a hit only will make you a worse fighter. You must be able to accept defeat.
     
  2. Miriel

    Miriel My Preciousss

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    and how do you know when you're dead?
     
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    Gavaha Art House Member

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    Oh lets say your are spearfighting, you have a spear and so does the person you are fighting. He thrusts at you and it just rubs against your side, it doesn't really HIT, just glances. In that case you wouldn't be dead. But lets say instead on glancing he hit you right in the shoulder, a powerfull hit, then you would be dead(not instantly, but you would be badly injured and would most likely die afterwards)

    Help?
     
  4. Miriel

    Miriel My Preciousss

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    oh how fun :p I love dying because I get to be oodles dramatic :D
     
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    i guess it might be kindof difficult to know. all injuries have their own problems and you wouldnt necessarily have to be mortally wounded to be unable to fight. for instance a cut hamstring will make you unable to stand, a broken collar bone will hurt like blazes.

    i just practice for technique, not getting hit is always better than getting hit.

    youve gotta have admiration for those who die oodles dramatically.:)
     
  6. Sekots_D

    Sekots_D The Fighters Guide House Member

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    It can be quite obvious if you are fighting with a more senior swordsman than you, for they will tell you or stop fighting altogether when they get a telling blow. I usually just say mutual when there is doubt.
     
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    hackandslash The Fighters Guide House Member

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    What if you hvae mithril armor or soemthing super strong, cant you take head shots and stuff then?



     
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    if you are taking head shots you should be wearing something super strong
     
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    Chaos The Fighters Guide House Member

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    :dragon:

    One time I was struck in the foot while swordfighting. So then I hopped around on one foot for the rest of the skirmish. But then I was slain.
     
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    Sekots_D The Fighters Guide House Member

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    leg shots are tough chous, im fighting with 2 weapons, and my friends will always do a sweeping cut to hack off a leg. :fuckyou: there isnt much i can do except jump and die. but that is leg sweep abuse. Its kind of like braveheart when walace does that to some poor british guy. I think the pope should make that illegal like he did crossbows.
     
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    glad to hear you recovered chaos
     
  12. Orkin

    Orkin The Fighters Guide House Member

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    Hello, I just discovered this board. I hope you don't mind if I jump in without an intro.

    Medical studies have shown that people (eg cops) that get shot or stabbed often react differently when in the heat of battle, compared to how they would react later when the dust settles.

    Your opponent should be targeting kill zones, and if he misses those spots, it shouldn't be counted.

    Here's an interesting article from ARMA:

    Legs, Wounds, and Standing Fights in Historical Fencing

    My $0.02
     
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    Anduril Flame of the West

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    In fencing, a single touch is the end. Even on the leg. But honestly, you'd have to be pretty good to get a cut in the leg and not falter long enough for your enemy to quickly finish you off.
     
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    Orkin The Fighters Guide House Member

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    On the other hand... if you're sparring to develop your skills, then any time your opponent can get through without your permission, whether its a touch or a slam, then you should consider yourself to have lost.
     
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    Cudgel The name says it all

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    I agree with orkin. especially since if I get legged I lose most of my fightign abilty so ill lose anywas. better to not get hit all.
     
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    Baka Commander of 1000 fools

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    There is the other part that says if you are simulating a real fight, you can bleed to death from many good blows. If you actually have your foot or leg cut off, you will probably bleed to death very quickly without medical attention. If there are rules to a particular style, and not just horsing around, then you follow those rules, plain and simple.