Joffrey's Fate

Discussion in 'A Song of Ice and Fire' started by LyannaWolfBlood, Sep 25, 2007.

  1. CB Swords

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    Of course who had motive to try to murder Tyrion?

    His sister, and wouldn't that just be fitting for Cersei if she had in the end killed her own son, then she goes crazy (a little bit) convincing herself she didn't, hence her mental state.
     
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    Very very interesting.
     
  3. Gwywen

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    Interesting indeed.
    So maybe that's why Cersei said it was the wine, while lady Alerie said it was the pie he choked from?
    If wat CB Swords states is true, the maesters would have searched the remaining piece of pie for poison (and probably found it).
    So she said it was the wine, to make sure no one would be looking for poison in Tyrion's pie.
    Oooh, she's a mean woman...
     
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    I never really thought too much on who did it, I was just so happy that someone finally did! :p
    I need to reread,after reading your theories, I realize how much I've forgotten about.

    That's all, continue with the important posts. ;)
     
  5. LyannaWolfBlood

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    Cersei? Hmmm... the plot thickens... ;)

    That is so true :D.
     
  6. Gwywen

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    Ok, now I have a brand new theory which wipes out all the others :D

    While Cersei attempted to have her brother Tyrion killed with a lemoncream-poisoned piece of pie, the Tyrell-ladies tried to poison the cruel young king. Unaware of that, Oberyn Martell provided Littlefinger with a poisoned hairnet, not knowing what purpose LF had for that.
    So, that evening the gods were finally and for once merciful, and had Joff killed by the pie which was meant for his uncle, and made things worse by having him drink the also poisoned wine, leaving Tyrion alive because of the 76 meals he had before the pie, thus punishing Cersei for being soooo vicious and leaving Oberyn to finally get his revenge on Ser Gregor.
    Now Cersei thinks she killed her own son, and the Tyrells are also satisfied because they think it was just their wine that killed Joff, and the maesters have no idea what kind of poison was used, because two different kinds of poison were mixed, which of course came to nobody's mind.
    And Oberyn finally understands where his hairnet has gone, and he laughs himself to death (litteraly) because the Tyrells, whom he used to hate so much, have made him unguilty from killing Joff.
     
  7. Ender-Zero

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    Sansa killed him unwittingly, the jewels in the hair net she wore were poison. One fell into his chalice, or was put in there by someone. I came to this conclusion from the fact that I clearly remember it being stated that after the dinner she noticed one of the jewels was gone. Also when Dany has her visions that one time one of them was of a beautiful girl with snakes deadly snakes in her hair.
     
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    One of the stones was missing, but don't you remember Lady Olenna touching Sansa's hair after everybody left the sept? 'Oh child the wind has loosened your hair' or something like that she said, and put her hair back in the hairnet.
    Most people agree this is the very moment when Lady Olenna took one of the chrystals from Sansa's hairnet.
    Even Dontos or LF (I should have to look that up) explains her afterwards about this Lady Olenna/hairnet event.
     
  9. LyannaWolfBlood

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    *bows in admiration* That MUST have been what happened!
     
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    Gwy. Your theory is sound ;)
    I declare this topic closed.
    All that can be read from the book is in there.
    She´s bound to be right on at least some of it.


    Well. Unless the Tyrells poisoned the pie and Cersei poisoned the wine. And littlefinger got the hairnet from Cressens ghost.
    The Tyrells wanted Tyrion out of the way so that Sansa could marry Willas.
    And Cersei tried to poison Joff and Marg, so as to rule westeros as both King and Queen.
     
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    Yeah... I'm back. Everyone run away.

    See, I'd make a relevant post theory, but I haven't actually read ASoIaF in the last three months or so at least, so I can't. D: However, due to some stuff going on - well, doesn't look like I'll be able to catch up anytime soon. So... sometime in the next few months, I'll reread, and then you can look forward to my innumerable posts again. :D
     
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    Ahhhhhh! *runs away*
















    Kidding, welcome back!! :)
     
  13. LyannaWolfBlood

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    Hello again! :D Do we have to run away?
     
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    Thanks guys! :D And it's ADVISABLE. ;)
     
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    *peeks back in*

    See, everyone took your advice and ran away. :p
     
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    I noticed. :D