Greybeard's Cover Thread

Discussion in 'User Created Art' started by Greybeard, May 3, 2013.

  1. Moo Guru

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    Grey: I love the monster one, but think the image where his shoulder was missing was better :p
     
  2. S.J. Faerlind

    S.J. Faerlind Flashlight Shadowhunter

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    You should try it in bright blue or purple and see how it looks before you pass judgement. Don't forget that many people don't have the Kindle Fire and the covers on most e-readers are shown in greyscale, not colour. You absolutely need stark contrast between the background and the lettering for the title and the author to stand out on the cover in greyscale.

    I think the blurring helped. If you don't blur the edges of the image somewhat, it looks like a cut and paste image. Do you have an image of the whole monster?

    This makes me smile. It's amazing what you can do when you have to, isn't it? :)
     
  3. Greybeard

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    Purple might well make the world explode, but I think the right blue might work.


    No. The whole image is just a little more on each side and cut off square at the bottom. I've got 90% or more of the monster in that one.

    Oh no! Not another learning experience!
     
  4. S.J. Faerlind

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    Well give them a try and see...


    lmao
    T'is good for you!
    Geez... covers are the worst part of the whole process I think. They're fun AND frustrating, all at the same time. :p
     
  5. Druid of Lûhn

    Druid of Lûhn The Little Lamb.

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    It is true that the smoke brushes are magical, but only for Photoshop.
    The black outline is there for the contrast. I can test it on my Kindle (B&W).

    One of the three covers posted side-by-side however does not use them and still worked quite well.
    I think that the background is definitely improving, but that it is weird seeing just part of the shoulder.

    I love helping people in any way possible and this has been (and still is) a fun experience.

    Well, we're still here, but I did have to make it less saturated. The second picture is what the cover without the cloud brushes and with the yellow text looks
    [​IMG][​IMG]
     
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  6. S.J. Faerlind

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    I still think the text needs to be darker but that's only my opinion. My sig background is a gradient. Maybe try a blue closer to the dark end of it? Bright and eye-catching but still has good contrast...?
     
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    Druid of Lûhn The Little Lamb.

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    [​IMG]

    Dark doesn't work:
    [​IMG][​IMG]

    This is the colour from the right of your gradient.
     
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    hahaha XD
    Great gif Druid!
    Actually, I really like the title in that colour but that's only my opinion. :)
     
  9. Moo Guru

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    It's okay with a dark border (pic 1) but I can't read the 2nd one, it blurs into a rather sticky mess lol. *goes to clean specs*
     
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    Hum, maybe you need new screens? Of the two, the second is more legible, but still rather ugly.

    A light colour is needed to go/contrast with the border/shadow, which is needed because flat text doesn't work in this situation.
     
  11. Greybeard

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    Maybe black text with a yellow outline and a black shadow? That might work better.
     
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    Over the top:
    [​IMG]

    Seriously, I think that the original text design works well and that we should now work on applying the design to the other covers.
     
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    I like them, although I wonder if using the same yellow as you used in your Fire of St. Denian's one (that I subsequently used): a less lemony one.

    As to the colours, I think that using opposite colours on a design like this doesn't work when applied to the gradient, unless the clouds are also that colour.
    And I don't know if PAINT.NET allows you to do this, but a radial gradient and rubbing out part of the clouds makes it better in my opinion.

    Keep up the good work; you've gone far and once you've got your best cover done, there'll be no stopping you.
    (that sounds really weird, especially seeing as I'm much younger than you)
     
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    It's certainly possible in Paint.NET, but I'm unsure of my rubbing out skills. I'll try. This one isn't clouds, but fire. Natural colours on the left and rendered B&W on the right. Do you have a preference?

    I'll try taking the gold from the helmet to use for the lettering. Yeah, that's a richer colour.

    My attempt at rubbing out the clouds was ... baaad.
     
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    I'm not sure what you mean there. The gradient itself is medium blue/light grey. Do you mean the yellow lettering on blue? Or is the problem the red/yellow of the fire on the first one?

    Thank you. I went to the expert to learn.
     
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  17. Overread

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    Druid on your examples surely the monk should be looking to the right, not the left. You want to guide the viewer to opening the book and reading the pages (which open upon the right) - not leading them to the spine of the book which is on the left.
     
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    When you posted this I didn't understand it, so I thought about it for a while and I think I've figured it out.

    Personally, I like the one with the shoulder because the pose shows movement. But when I'm working on them, I see them both at a large size where I can see the detail. On the cover, the head-only one is larger and shows detail better.

    View attachment 8939

    Does this work better?
     
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  20. Druid of Lûhn

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    They are definitely good and I like them very much. I think that the healer might need a slightly different shade of dark red, or maybe some light colour (does the iconic yellow not work here?).

    I do think that the main thing is that there should be no grey in the clouds/background, because you're got a gradient of saturation to no saturation, which doesn't work well, especially around the 50% area. Good job though.

    @Overread: I was only putting it there quickly as a placeholder, following what Greybeard had done in an earlier post.

    Thank you, although this is much more of a hobby.