Glorfindel

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  1. Lady Orohisiel

    Lady Orohisiel New Member

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    Once again this thread is probably already on here but oh well.

    I'm confused. Are the Glorfindel in the Silmarillion and the one in LotR the same person or different?? I thought that the Glorfindel (I think he was from Gondolin) in the Sil died in the fight with a Balrog but some people say it's the same one. I think Elves return to Ea but wouldn't he return to Valinor and not Middle-earth???
     
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    A lot of people beleive that Glorfindel did his time in The Halls of Mandos, then came back in the Third Age. But I don't think that there is any definate proof of this. Just the same names.
     
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    Elan Morin Tedronai The Forsaken

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    Theres also another Legolas, if i remember correctly. Though I spose it could very well be the same one, id say he's just another Noldorin Elf Lord.
     
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    Legolas in Silmarillion was from Gondolin as well, if my memory serves me correctly... Just a case of naming your children after famous persons is my guess (esp. since it's known who Legolas' parents are). Although, I've heard that there's some proof in support of Glorfindel of Imladris being the same person as Glorfindel of Gondolin.
     
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    I can't find Legolas in the Sil. Where is he mentioned? In any case, I can remember Turin (as in the member of TFF, not the 1st age hero) saying they are the same. But indeed, this could be an intersting case of the same phenomenon. I must have missed it in my own readings.

    On the other hand, the humans really had a hand in naming their children after a famous predecessor, such as Denethor. Now, there are far less elven, or at least their the birthrate is lower, so the need for such actions for finding names.

    Anyway, I'll see if I can find Turin's post

    ---EDIT---

    Found it, though it was not by Turin, it was by Curufeanor

     
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    Sorry for not being able to refer you to a chapter where the Gondolin Legolas was mentioned... could have been Unfinished Tales... don't remember much except reading a familiar name in an unexpected context...

    I think I'll withdraw and wait for an expert opinion ;)
     
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    I just read unfinished tails for the 8th time and in the chapter "of tuor and his coming to gondolin" it definetely did not mention legolas, son of thranduil...
     
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    That's because it is a different Legolas. I think he's in the Silmarillion though, so try there.
     
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    Hmmm... Chris rules! He has an index included for both UT and the Sil. A Legolas is mentioned in UT, but that happens to be the 3rd age Legolas we are all so firmiliar with... The Sil mentions no Legolas between "Lay of Leithian" and "Legolin"... So we can be pretty sure the early edition Legolas is in neither of them. But there are more books, books I haven't read, such as the mentioned BoLT II. Maybe one of the guys who have actually read those books knows some answers. Now, where is Turin when you need him?
     
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    I only just re-read the Silmarillion, and he's not in the index. But im almost 100% sure he's in there somewhere. He's not a major character in any sense of the word, he's just an elf who happens to be named Legolas.
     
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    "Theres also another Legolas, if i remember correctly. Though I spose it could very well be the same one, id say he's just another Noldorin Elf Lord."

    Legolas greenleaf of Gondolin, led the refugees through tuor's secret passage through the western cliffs of the echoriath. he was said to have the sharpest eyes of any elf to ever walk the earth.