Glorfindel v. balrog??

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  1. finrod

    finrod Born to woe.

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    the reason I said ''even a dwarf'' was mainly because I am not all that fond of Dwarves.

    * please do not hurt me *
     
  2. Asgath

    Asgath Heavy-metal dwarf

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    NO I REEM AT YOU FOR YOUR DISLIKE OF THE GREAT RACE!!!!!!!
    I WILL NOW DELETE YOU FROM THE BOARDS FOR YOUR INSORBORDINATION.
    </joke>

    <serious> Well, I guess that is opinion, as I dislike elves:)

    I beleive Gandalf could best Aragorn, and indeed Borimir, but Numenors of the second age...thats different, they could look at you and make you fall over:p
     
  3. Scrinlord

    Scrinlord Dark Lord of Guppies

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    I think that Gandalf could beat most people(and elves). THere are people such as Boromir, Aragorn, etc. that could probably beat Gandalf, but for the most part, I think that he was a better fighter when need by than most.
     
  4. Shinagani

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    I can't believe I said Tuor, what was I thinking? I'm not going to be able to sleep for nights because of that mistake! (the funny thing is you all think I'm joking)

    When it comes to down and dirty fighting, man to man, magicless, in your face brawls. Gandalf just can't fight like people such as Aragorn, or Glorfindel. But the thing is Gandalf never fought without magic in tough bouts most likely cuz that's his strong point. As soon as he whips outt he magic he's in a league all his own. He said it himself, next to Sauron he's the most dangerous thing in Middle-Earth. But in just hand to hand fighting he can't compare with people like Aragorn or [COUGH]escpecially Ecthelion[/COUGH] or Glorfindel
     
  5. finrod

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    no Big deal, I totally agree with your reasoning about Gandalf, by the way.

    p.s. Tuor's weapon was an axe and it was named Dramborleg.
     
  6. Shinagani

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    I know I was just not thinking when I was typing and I said Tuor because it started with a T, I wonder whatever happened to the sword Tuor got right before he met Ulmo....
     
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  7. finrod

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    This Tuor/Turin sword thing really gets to ya doesn't it?
    Really, you shouldn't be so hard on yourself, we all make mistakes.

    as for Tuor's sword, I guess he stored it somewhere in his house after he got his arms and armour gift from Turgon.
     
  8. byzantine warrior

    byzantine warrior Autokratos Konstantinou

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    Maybe he gave them to Ulmo:D but i still think that gandalf couldnt beat Aragorn or borimir and it would be a one sided fight if he fought gil-galad
     
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    I totally agree with you on that.

    the mere thought of Gandalf taking on Gil-Galad makes me smile.
    In fact, I think Gil-Galad may have been the most powerfull warrior ever around in middle-earth. (well, except for Fingolfin maybe)
     
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    nah, i rekon Maedros could give him a run for his money, and a few other Elven kings of old. Hurin might have been a challenge too.
     
  11. finrod

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    yes, perhaps Maedhros would be able to beat him. I find Maedhros to be an underestimated character as it is but I think it pretty much stops there. And Hurin........well, GG could woop him hands down.(imho)
     
  12. Shinagani

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    Unfortunately Ecthelion probably couldn't beat Gil-Galad. But Fingolfin could knock the crap out of Gil-Galad no sweat.
     
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    I believe Fingolfin to be the strongest good guy warrior ever!
     
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    Gil galad was awesome don't get me wrong, but what did he ever do to make you so enamored of him finrod, sure he fought sauron, but he was burned alive in the process. The greatest warrior Elf of the first age would probebly be Fingolfin, Man Huor, Huor is not the greatest in my opinion, thats Tolkien's. Second Age Elf, Gil-galad, Third age Elf, My vote would go to the sons of Elrond, but Legolas would be a contender as well. Third age man, Araqorn hands down.
     
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    I think Glorfindel might be the greatest 3rd age warrior. About Gil-Galad: I don't know, I just think he's cool. a good king and a mighty warrior.
     
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    Glorfindel of the third age he did'nt do anything in the 3rd age. He did his most awesome stuff in the first age. Greatest warrior of the 3rd age, Sons of Elrond, look at them they were trained by Elrond and Glorfindel.They rescued their mother from countless hundreds if not thousands of Orcs, they went on many, many battles with the Dunedain of the North, they went through the entire battle of pellenor fields without a scratch and the battle at the Morrannon. The only other Elf who comes close is Legolas, he survived Helms deep and there killed 41 Ocrs with bow and knife, he fought at the pellenor fields and Morranon. But the greatest Man warrior of the third age is as I said Aragorn, Pure Numenorian, the only numenorian greater than him was his ancestor Elendil himself. And I think that Aragorn in his peak of power and abilty with Numenorian armour and Anduril could slay a balrog, maybe not the one in Moria, because of special circumestances, like a bridge with a million foot drop off but else where I think he could take him. And I am not to sure on the whole gandalf fighting thing I am gonna have to check that.
     
  17. mormegil

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    sorry i am just getting into this thread a little late. looking through it though i found a few things that didnt sound right to me. first was the number of balrogs. i know that lost tales 2 makes it sound like there are hundreds of balrogs but i believe that tolkien finally settled on only like 12 (sound right to anybody, lol) and also as far as the few people that defeated a balrog, i look at it like those balrogs are going to win a fight 999 times out of a thousand, (and i am sure they all killed thousands of warriors) it just took the great warriors of there times to be that 1 time out of 1000. do you get what i mean, they were great because against impossible odds they won (or i should say came to a draw lol). thats just how i interpret it.
     
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    Glorfindel commanded the rivendell army in the wars agains angmar, so that's what he did. The reason I think Glorfindel is the mightiest warrior of the 3rd age is not so much because he actually kicked some ass (which he didn't), but was certainly well able to whoop anybody that stood in his way.
     
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    Why didn't he fight at the last alliance? And how was he been able to come back after dying with the Balrog?
     
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    i remember reading about this but i cant remember exactly what it says. something to do with because his valour the valar permited him to return and aid in the strugles against sauron. does anyone know when he returned? maybe he wasnt in the last alliance cause he hadnt returned to middle earth by that time.
     
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