Gandalf vs. Dumbledore

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Who would win in a duel?

  1. Gandalf

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  2. Dumbledore

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    13.3%
  1. azuren82

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    It's rather difficult to compare the system of magic in the HP world and Middle Earth, Kai. In HP, magic is rather common to a certain extent. But in Tolkien's world, magic is much lower profile but arguably more powerful than the HP world. Plus there's very little demonstration of magic in LOTR compared to HP, so you just can't say DD > Gandalf because that will be jumping the gun big time. :S
     
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    Well that is exactly what I am saying, all that can be said is by what evidence is given, and the evidence given shows that the magic in Middle Earth is not more powerful. The powers of the Maiar and specifically the Istari are not talked about. For all we know the Maiar could have each had one ability, Saruman- charm the minds of men through speech, Gandalf- the power of light and fire(partly strengthened by the ring he wore). I see exactly what you are saying, and like I said, I chose Gandalf, but to be the devil's advocate, and get more debate, I am trying to argue that, there isn't enough proof that our belief in the magic of Middle Earth being so great, but there is more then enough proof that HP magic is substantial. :)
     
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    On the issue of Middle Earth not more powerful, that's pretty hard to say. But you'll also have to know that in Tolkien's world, the only Maiar whose powers are restricted are the Istari. The rest seems to escape this logic as was proven by Melian. Also you have to take into account of the Valar and to a certain extent the Eldar as well. The Valar are practically gods and the Eldar could pwn an average HP world wizard for all we know. That being said tho, I do agree that HP magic is much more higher profile in that it took centre stage. But if you want to talk about the extent of magic presence, FR > HP.
     
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    Ok sweet, I am glad we were able to hash this out alittle better, I just didn't want poor Dumbledore getting the absolute run over.
     
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    Gandalf, though I respect Dumbledor, Gandalf is better when it comes to saving the world. :D
     
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    I think why ppl said Gandalf > DD is 'cuz of Gandalf the White. tbh I'm not too sure on Gandalf the Grey going up vs DD, but the White version could possibly pwn DD. That's only a guess at the very best tho as you guys have to take into account what me and Kai has said. And yeah, glad we reached a consensus here Kai. Just don't be offended by my Gandalf the White comment here lol! :D
     
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    i like Albus Dumbledore more..too bad that he has to die :S
     
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    Erm... this is abt a duel, not who you prefer as a character. :S
     
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    Gandalf the Grey would have spanked Dumbledore aswell.
     
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    Not too sure on that met. Refer to my previous posts on the HP world and ME.
     
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    The fact they were immortal alone makes him the winner because he could just keep coming back. Even with much loss in power he would win.

    It's quite evident with LotR that Gandalf was not using all of his powers. The guy literally does nothing most of the time.
     
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    If that's the case, then you might as well say Saruman will pwn DD as well from what I"ve seen in the movies. Not too sure abt the novels tho. :S
     
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    Haha ahh yes let's not forget the practicalities of magical facial hair...Gandalf all the way!
     
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    gandalf, i doubt DD has the nuts to piss off a balrog...
     
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    Gandalf because he's real, and Dumbledore is just a made up character.
     
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    Erm, elaborate, Raff?
     
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    Yeah, if we're talking about the possible reality of characters, I've got a few in mind that would win by default for, y'know...living at one time.
     
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    I have credible sources that tell me Gandalf is real but Im not allowed to speak of it..... I've said too much already.
     
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    Lol I honestly think you're an agent under the employment of certain militants of Tolkien fandom. :p
     
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    Dumbledore isn't that bad, but I'd have to say that Gandalf would kick his ass all the way from here to the hundred-millionth age. just saying.:saurumon:
     
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