Excalibur : Did it exist

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  1. darkdragon

    darkdragon The Black Prince

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    Did Excalibur exist ? Or could it be just a myth
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    Crusader Disturber of the Peace

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    it did, it is proven arthur existed but some of the stories may be exaggerated, a body has been found that many believe to be arthurs, from written evidence and such.

    During that age it was traditional for men to name their swords and they would be treasured family possesions, excalibur existed, it was arthurs sword. it may not have been magical, it may just be arthurs sword (i think the magic may have been a metaphor/miscoception of arthurs swordsmanship).
  3. darkdragon

    darkdragon The Black Prince

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    Good point Crusader. I will remember that..:D :D
  4. byzantine warrior

    byzantine warrior Autokratos Konstantinou

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    Crusader where did you hear that they found arthurs body?
  5. Lady_of_Shalott

    Lady_of_Shalott Weaving the Magic Web

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    Well, the idea had to come from somewhere, so something like it must have existed at some point, unless somebody out there ahd a good imagination...
  6. darkdragon

    darkdragon The Black Prince

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    Could be. People often do have good imaginations. :D
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    Arctic_Wolf shadow of the night

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    i may be wrong on this cause its form memory and i heard it a wile ago but as far as i know excalibur and all the other famus swords from other legends and storys like the singing sword(i think that might be excalibur thoe) the atlantian sword etc. are the same sword, like i said i could very well be wrong on this but it is what i heard from my father who happens to be a BIG knife and sword nut, could be cause he is a knife maker and has done research on things for god knows how long.


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  8. Sabishii

    Sabishii Sindarin

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    Well for one thing it wouldn't look like a "traditional" knight's sword.
  9. celebrimor

    celebrimor Elven Jewel-smith

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    well i heard that they did find it in a church somewere but ther not really sure if the body is arthurs and its xcalibur not with an "E"... and remember not everyone who lived in differn't places had info on everybody from differn't kingdoms so alot of poeple made up stories but some is myrh and some is real
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    Duke_Aramis New Member

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    There is a funny anecdote about Excalibur
    During the 3th crusade King Richard I of England asked the King of Sicily for ships to get him and his army to the Hollyland.
    The Sicilian King told Richard that he would get all the ships he needed in exchange for Excalibur, Richard drew his sword and said here you go.
    Richard later told one of his chief lieutenants (Andrew de Chauvigny) that Excalibur is the sword of the English king.
    That if he would loose his sword on the battlefield an pick one up from a fallen soldier at that point that sword would be Excalibur, the sword of English king.

    The only thing I'm sure of is that if the sword really existed it can look anything from a late Roman sword to an early Viking type sword, and nothing like we are use to see in the movies
  11. olivia_the_lamb

    olivia_the_lamb Moderator Staff Member

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    All of you: read "The Mists of Avalon"! It is a great Arthurian LEgend teller, and it tells so much that I believe to be true. It's really great
  12. Urambo Tauro

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    That makes sense. It's a lot like "Air Force One".
  13. Lady_of_Shalott

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    Well, that is an interesting story Duke Aramis. I never thought of it like that. I wonder where the word "exacalibur" came from.
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    i think your all wrong.. excalibure was found by a dragon and then it ate exactlyboor
  15. elrond243

    elrond243 The Fighters Guide House Member

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    was that a joke?
  16. Cascador

    Cascador Who's Anakin?

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    I think Duke is right, he knows a lot about history so what he says is probably true
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    kartaron Hunter / Gatherer

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    The word is anglicised medieval latin for "legendary sword" It was originally Caliburn before being modified to Excaliber by 12th century poets.
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    i think that Excaliber did, exist
  19. Elfdaughter

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    Karton and Duke are correct - the swords we see in the films are nothing like what Excalibur (if it existed) would have looked like. The name itself implies that it did not, in fact, exist - 'Legendary Sword'....

    Early Medieval swords were cast in stone - the shape of the blade was hollowed out of a stone, and the molten iron poured in. The iron would have been left to cool, then the blade 'pulled from the stone'. Of course, there would have been a lot of work to do on the blade afterwards - honing the blade, cleaning it, fitting a hilt etc - but I believe that that is where that particular aspect of the story came from.
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    Ender-Zero Ruff Mercenary

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    Anyone hear heard Jack Whyte's theory on the etymology of the word Excalibur? I can't remember exactly what the words meant exactly or what they were exactly but he figured one word was Celtic and the other was Arabic and together they made the word Excalibur. I have no idea how you could come to such an odd conclusion as this but he did.

    Edit: Ok so he thought it was Latin and Arabic, and it was something like Ekscalibre or some such thing and it meant literally "Out of the mould" as in the sword was moulded.
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