ethnic weapons

Discussion in 'General Weapons & Armour' started by byzantine warrior, Jan 28, 2004.

  1. byzantine warrior

    byzantine warrior Autokratos Konstantinou

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    sorry swordsman
     
  2. Duke_Aramis

    Duke_Aramis New Member

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    Well Fin if your under the Moerdijk, you would be Flemish in those days and they were hired by almost all the nobles in Europe cause of there great skill as pikemen.
    there weapons would have bin very similar to the English and the French

    If your from under the Moerdijk you would have belonged to one of the Friezen Clans and even the Norman couldn't keep those guys under, there weapons would have bin very similar to those of the Germanic tribes until +-1000 AD
     
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    swordsman New Member

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    No ned to apologize friend lets all have fun and just keep on the subject. Lets just enjoy and post :^)
     
  4. finrod

    finrod Born to woe.

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    thank you Duke. I would be frysian then. how do you know all this?
    Did you see that Byz? I am a decendant of a warrior race, go me!
     
  5. byzantine warrior

    byzantine warrior Autokratos Konstantinou

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    congradulations on your ancestry FIn
     
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    I'm a military historian by profession Fin
     
  7. byzantine warrior

    byzantine warrior Autokratos Konstantinou

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    ive forgotten another important weapon greek fire
     
  8. finrod

    finrod Born to woe.

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    that's so cool, I am studying for that too. in which period do you specialize?
     
  9. Gûd Daedheloth

    Gûd Daedheloth Foe of Morgoth's Realm

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    What was that about the subject, and staying on it? :)
     
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    I'm specialize in the crusades and the armies of the outremer, I guess about all ethnic weapons can be found in that area (1099-1350)
    But I know a few things about other eras as well
     
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    finrod Born to woe.

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    nice. my main area of interest is the weapons and warfare of the the later medieval period, especially the hundred years war and wars of the roses.

    But you're right Gud, back to ethnic weapons. I know some mean smelling dutch cheeses that would perfectly be suitable as weapons of war for us Dutch (who appreciate em) and thus be ethnic weapons.
     
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    lordmaille Master of the Maille

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    Great, Im Polish. I guess my weapon of Ethnicity would be Cavalry lance, seeing as my ancestors used them against the enemy up until WWII when they found that a spear cannot destroy a tank.
     
  13. Boromir Of Gondor

    Boromir Of Gondor Aragorn was a

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    Well im Persian, and we used Scimitars as a weapon. we also had many other different swords of different shapes and sizes, daggers, bows, and what many people would see as "arabic". We didnt use maces or flails, and i am not very sure about axes, but i think not.
     
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    I'm Spaniard.


    let's begin.

    *before 3700 BC it was a weapon without a clear name, simmilar to the Aztec "macanas"; In a table, a few fragments of pointy silex where attached.

    *Between 3700 and 3400 BC, bronze shortswords. The sword were made, securing the blade to the handle with rivets.

    *Between 1200 and 1300 BC, the bronze sword started to use a primitive form of tang, sawed as a wheat ear.

    *Appears the famous "Spanish Falcata", the most representative of ethnic weapons in the Iberia peninsulae.

    *Also the "Gladius Ibericus" makes his apparence, it is said that the romans adapted this sword to make his Gladius, but there is nothing clear. Tito, Livio, Plibio, Estrabon, and Aulo Gelio cited his praises in his texts.

    *about 500 BC With the invasion of the barbarians, the sword started to give his way to the axes, and the scramasax, a one edged knife very used by the vikings and the saxons.

    *During the Goths domination, the sword increased his size till 95cm (About 37 and 1/2") and remaing without many changes till the end of the High Middle Ages.

    *XII century : Middle age double edged Sword.

    *XV Century : Appears the "Montante", a two handed sword, 130cm long (about 51 and 1/5") with a 30 cm handle.

    * With the moorish invasion, the alfanje (I don't know if his name is "cutlass" in english) and the scimitar were introduced, but the most notable sword was the one that was imported by the moorish Zenetes trybe,known as "ginetas" or "zenetes" a straight and broad blade, with the cross bended to the blade, and a "disc like" shaped pommel" very ornated.

    *During the same XV Century, the use of the plate armor, mutated the way of the sword was used, appearing the "espada ropera" Aka Rapier.

    *XVI century: Evolution of the Rapier, to the "Espada de lazo" I don't know what is the relative words in english but, the literal translation is "Tie Sword".

    Some of these sword are not of Spaniard origin, but they were used, and representative of the epoch in Spain.
     
  15. Duke_Aramis

    Duke_Aramis New Member

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    Thank God for the "Reconquista" ;)

    And yes it is said that we stole the concept of the gladius.
    The Hispania provinces also gave us some great emperors like Hadrianus, Antoninus Pius and Marcus Aurelius.
     
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    byzantine warrior Autokratos Konstantinou

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    wow i never knewe my simple thread would get replies if im not mistaken wasnt the falchion copied from an ancient greek design?
     
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    And don't forget the wine! :D
     
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    Duke_Aramis New Member

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    And the gold :)
    And remember: there is one golden rule who has the gold makes the rules ;)
    This was before the nukes came in to play though lol
     
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    Soulsmith Forging souls anew...

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    well if you go back a lot, and ignore all the english mingling, you could say i was norman. That would mean I was viking

    so i guess its, wooden spear, flint club, axes, spears, viking swords, shields, throwing axes, throwing spears, oars (hey, why not?), bows
     
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    Mububban Administrator Staff Member

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    Wooden spear?

    Flint club?

    Exactly how far back are we talking here?

    And I'm bad with geography. Why would being a Norman (weren't they French?) make you a Viking?