Dwarves and the Rings

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  1. Lady_of_Shalott

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    Darn. I wish they mentioned who had all seven rings, just because I'd like to know. There's not enough info about the dwarves.
     
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    yes, tolkien does not shed alot of light on dwarves, more on elves and humans
     
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    I wonder why Tolkien stayed away from using dwarves after The Hobbit. I would of loved to see them somewhere in the trilogy. Any guess's?:confused:
     
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    I think he did that to emphasise thier seclusion, of course, he did mention about the battle where Dain was killed, he should have wrote a chapter or two about that, would have been intresting, about all the Dale and such
     
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    That is a good point, but I think because they didn't really fit in LOTR. It was about the end of the age of the elves. I suppose he could have worked them in, but it does seem strange since it was because of dwarves that Bilbo found the Ring. :confused:
     
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    It seems in the Triology that dwarves barely exist, the Dwarves in Rivendell are the only ones you see
     
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    Even in the Sil, I felt more emphasis could of been placed on them. Don't get me wrong though, I am happy Tolkien included the information on dwarves that is already in there, just I think more of it wouldn't of hurt.
     
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    bottom line: dwarves need more respect
     
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    LOL, equality for all!
     
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    In LOTR we only got to know Gimli, and in the Silmarillion we only got to know Min. I really would like some more Dwarven characters.
     
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    more dwarven characters would be nice to see since they don't introduce us to any other character in LOTR besides Gimli. we were "supposed" to see his cousin i think when they entered the caves in the TT but of course they're ded like always.
     
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    What happened to those rings when the One ring was cast into Orodruin?
     
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    I would assume that they simply lost any power that they had had, like the elven rings. They were fueled by the One Ring, and when it was destroyed, they lost their potency.
     
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    I'm pretty sure thats what happened too. Good call LoS.
     
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    Under the binding power of the Ring, Sauron subverted nine Men, whose Rings of Power twisted them slowly into wraiths, the Nazgûl, whose only will was Sauron's. He attempted the same with Dwarves, but they proved resistant to the Rings' powers, and those of their Rings that were not destroyed the Dark Lord reclaimed. The power of Sauron's Ruling Ring was such, though, that it wielded power over the wills of lesser beings whether or not they wore another Ring. In Tolkien's Letters, we're told that he used it to bring about nothing less than the destruction of Númenor, by corrupting the will of its King, Ar-Pharazôn, and his followers.


    I found that ^^^ at Enc of Arda
     
  16. Lady_of_Shalott

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    This talk about the dwarven rings being destroyed makes me wonder something. Could the elven rings have been destroyed too? I know the One Ring could not be destroyed because it was made by Sauron himself, and the other rings were made by the Elven smiths. But Sauron made the One Ring in basically the same way as the other rings. Was the difference that Sauron's life force was boound to the Ring, and there was no one's life bound to the others? Just wondering.......
     
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    Why was Sauron so interested in recollecting all the dwarfs rings? He took one of Thrain, when Sauron`s spy had captured him. It was mention in the appendix of Lord of the rings.
     
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    My guess is so He could pass them out and still rule over another bing.