Creation vs. Evolution

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Creation vs. Evolution

  1. Creation

    23 vote(s)
    27.1%
  2. Evolution

    55 vote(s)
    64.7%
  3. I don't know

    7 vote(s)
    8.2%
  1. Lord Yuan

    Lord Yuan Death-Thousand+

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    Because we can't figure it out. We keep trying to go farther back in time to figure out what happened and then everything breaks down and makes less sense. We may know much but likewise there is still much we have yet to know for sure if ever possible.

    Religion is to me just another theory on the list of yet to be proved wrong. A god theory, that perhaps the universe was created by some other being. If it had intentions to create life who knows, if it even existed who knows. But try to take what we know with science before the big bang and you come up with just as much nothing to explain it.
     
  2. Aatell

    Aatell The one who has two minds

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    i honestly don't care much for religion the only thing i got against evolution is if the universe started as a small ball that exploded where did the ball come from?
     
  3. wanderingmagus

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    and it's... difficult to prove negatives.
     
  4. Univerze

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    Don't believe in god.. so evolution. Also, I'm a biologist. ;) Well, student.
     
  5. olivia_the_lamb

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    I think that it's evolution. That doesn't mean that I support the Big Bang Theory (though I prefer it) or anything like that. I'm an off and on again Catholic, more Buddhist than anything (don't worry about it not making sense lol).

    I am also a biology student and I believe strongly in evolution since there is legitimate evidence pointing in that direction. I like to think on a theoretical basis (not factual, since science cannot prove or disprove anything).

    All in all, I don't really care how we got here, I just know that there are some really cool things that happened between the first organisms and us.
     
  6. warrior_squirrel21

    warrior_squirrel21 blue is my favorite color

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    The pope is a man. The idea of having a pope is bullsh**. Just because the pope says it, does not mean it is the truth of God.
    Pardon me.
     
  7. olivia_the_lamb

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    That's not what YOUR religion believes, but it's what Catholicism believes. ANd what the pope says is not the word of God, it's the word of the Church, which does it's best to coincide with the word of God.
     
  8. Kelmourne

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    Evidence 1: The Pope is full of bullsh** and his words should not be followed

    Evidence 2: The bible is full of contradictions, is occasionally horribly immoral, and borrows from hundreds of other middle-eastern religions, proving that it is unoriginal and thus fake and should not be followed

    Conclusion: Why be christian at all?
     
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  9. olivia_the_lamb

    olivia_the_lamb Moderator Staff Member

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    All religions "borrow" from one another. So why be religious at all?
     
  10. wanderingmagus

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    all life is meaningless, because in the end everything will die anyways. so why live at all?

    *is shot*
     
  11. Kelmourne

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    Because life is fun.
     
  12. olivia_the_lamb

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    Life is definitely fun. I like living regardless.
     
  13. RayCaptain

    RayCaptain 如朱

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    ^ that

    Plus, I'm about to get in on this... Who dares defy my logix?!
     
  14. wanderingmagus

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    the Catholics?
     
  15. Turambar

    Turambar Harebrained Staff Member

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    Hmmm

    Today, I have come to the conclusion that life is a neutral force.

    Life has no opinion, life creates and, in extend of exsisting, destroys. For that matter, it is actually rather easy and cheap to create life. We come into exsistance, live the life that is bestowed upon us, dutifull as we are and then, in the passing of time, die, as if nothing has happened.

    In that sense, life and death are the same, with the note of the interbellum of our exsistance. Thus the purpose everyone is looking for, is void. And evidence supports this: happiness is just a chemical in our brain. Descartes was wrong; we are not because we think - it's a trickery of firing neurons and electric pulses which makes itself believe it exsists.





    Now... where's my prozac?
     
  16. Kelmourne

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    Life CAN be fun, or neutral or horrible. Death is completely neutral. I am honestly more afraid of the process of dying than I am of being dead.
     
  17. Turambar

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    Ow, life can be fun. Indeed, fun and happiness seem to be our ultimate goal, with the lack thereof and strife for being our main burden and goal. Life, in essense is a gamble on happiness and fun, like a stock market or a casino. Of course, there is fun in life. But, taking a step back, I am not sure what the significance of this is.

    Beyond that, I agree on the dying part. Although I find death hard to imagine, I don't fear him as such.
     
  18. Running Wolf

    Running Wolf Join the Madness

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    No, I think that Life IS fun AND neutral AND Horrible. That is what defines life: Stuff that happens.
    Personally, my ultimate goal is not to be happy but to be content when the end nears. All this western philosophy about striving for happiness, for excess, for parties, sex drugs n rock'n'roll. That's nonsense. It's shallow (IMO) and it especially doesn't make me content.
    Fun is awesome.
    But only if there are times that are no fun.
    Happiness is great.
    But only when you know the feeling of sadness.

    I'm probably missing the point in this thread. I should open a seperate one... this could be interesting.

    Sorry to interrupt the discussion :eek:

    Oh and
    @Tur: You misquoted Descartes ^^. He said "I doubt therefore I am" And with all the science we have to analyse and map the brain, we are no closer to the soul or to what makes us what we are. And it's not only the circumstances that make us unique... The soul remains a mystery as of now unsolved.
     
  19. Turambar

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    lol - moving with you :D
     
  20. Mububban

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    I've heard it before but can't remember - how do creationists explain radio carbon dating and such things?
    Was it the great flood screwing things up?