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Discussion in 'Wheel of Time' started by Elan Morin Tedronai, Apr 22, 2004.

  1. Turin

    Turin Valar Morghulis

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    I don't believe it was said, other than they must not have been looking for Perrin.
     
  2. Elan Morin Tedronai

    Elan Morin Tedronai The Forsaken

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    Hmm, anyone got any theories ? Who else was in that area ? Perhaps they were trying to scare off the wolves (which they did), perhaps they're after Elyas ?
     
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    They were gated in near the Whitecloak camp, remember Valda catches a whiff of a stench as he enters the camp. That matches descriptions of the smell in the Blight. Apart from suggesting that whoever is giving orders to Asunawa sent them (I think he's a DF like Carridin, I'm pretty sure most of the Questioners are) it means (IIRC) that they are heading almost directly south. They aren't being drawn by ta'veren because they also circle Masema's camp. I don't think they're after Rand, they've been moving south too constantly and Rand's been jumping around.

    Who could they be after? Theories suggest 2 possible targets that would warrant 50 Darkhounds. Padan Fain and the Gholam. The order to kill Fain has been in effect for a long time and they know he's not easy to kill. Sammael's Gholam may now be free as he is dead and none of the FS would be happy having one on the loose, especially as they probably know what we do, that the Gholam would love some revenge. Also we know that they aren't happy about one of them having one that could be turned against any of the others with no warning.

    Only 2 options, can anyone remember anyone else to the south of Perrin? Possibly Mat, but why him if they leave Perrin alone? Wouldn't they be sent after both of them?
     
  4. Elan Morin Tedronai

    Elan Morin Tedronai The Forsaken

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    Hmm, I always thought that the smell Valda catches was someone opening a gateway from Shayol Ghul, which would equal a Forsaken in the ranks of the Whitecloaks, but I guess it could be the Darkhounds, it would probably make more sense.
     
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    Turin Valar Morghulis

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    Perhap's they want to kill off the horn blower? I would say that Mat is more valueable at this point than Perrin, especially if the forsaken know where the horn is.
     
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    Yeah but Mat can't channel, a pack of 10 could kill him, 3 almost did, even with Rand intervening, only he and Moraine together saved him (Rand BF'd the darkhounds, Moraine Healed Mat because one of them had slobbered on him).

    I think Fain is the most likely (and most dangerous) target.
     
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    Okay this one thing bugs me.

    Before the breaking and the war of shadow etc. The Aes Sedai consisted of men and women cause there was no taint and all was fine. So what was the purpose of the Red Ajah then? Because No one has said when the ajahs were made so i assume it was at the beginning and those portal stones were made with steps for each ajah and they were made before the breaking.
     
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    :confused: I thought there were no ajah's before the breaking. *confuzzled*
     
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    Oh, well that answers my question then, I musnt have got to that bit yet, but that doesnt explain the portal stone thing?
     
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    Maybe the colors had another significance. There has to be a reason the ajah's chose those 7 colors. They could have chosen orange or purple for Ajah colors....
     
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    Turin Valar Morghulis

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    Who would want to join the orange Ajah? :duh:
     
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    The Orange Ajah, Dedicated to playing practical jokes on other Ajah's. :D
     
  13. Elan Morin Tedronai

    Elan Morin Tedronai The Forsaken

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    An ajah in the AoL was a temporary group of people who would form together to accomplish a goal, and then they'd depart from each other, present day Ajah derived from that to permanent groups.
     
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    Ok, new question:

    Why did they build a city at Rhuidean? They had to know no one was going to live there, did they think the AS were going to come into the Waste for them to serve? Why not a big museum/building to house/display all the power artifacts? How did they get the clouds/fog around it? There weren't any AS with them.
     
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    If you remember the visions in the glass columns, when rhuidean was finished, kinda. There were AS in it. The very first of rands visions showed the aiel going down to meet them coming from rhuidean and they told them the truth (aparenty what they learn in the glass collumns), So I'm guessing thats where the fog came from.

    The city was built to house all those nifty angreals, sa'angreals and ter'angreals, you couldnt really leave em out in the desert and the guys who took them there needed somewhere to live.

    And the reason it was built, because you put it that no one was ever going to live there was the point, they were trying to keep all the artifacts safe untill the right time.

    But I could be wrong, which if far more likely.
     
  16. Elan Morin Tedronai

    Elan Morin Tedronai The Forsaken

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    Your on the right track, but remember that the Dai'shan Aiel were sent there just to get them out of the way, to keep them from harm because the Aes Sedai knew they wouldn't fight back. I think the fog is some kind of ward against evil, have a re-read of tSR if you need a re-cap, I think it's pretty much explained.
     
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    Yeah, I only just finished that the other day, Asmodeon cant get past the fog untill the very end.

    Okay heres a simple question just for assurance, Does Perrin appear in TFOH at all? Cause I'm almost half way through and he's not been in it once.
     
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    Not really a spoiler and you did ask so;

    No, not at all.

    It annoyed me a lot the first time I read it too, otherwise it's one of the better books.
     
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    No perrin? That sucks! The whole two rivers stuff in TSR was great, And its not a good idea cutting out a main character for an entire 1000 page book.

    I'm dissapointed.
     
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    Turin Valar Morghulis

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    Yeah, I missed him too.