Discussion in 'Fantasy Weapons and Armour' started by finrod, Oct 23, 2003.
so do I which helms the winged ones or the guard ones i like both
I love them both too, but I was referring to the winged ones
I could well live with the guard helms either, they have a smaller wing on them isn't it?.
yes i believe they do winged helms look AWESOME
I luv them all, btw. what do you think of the armour?
I like the concept of that mask it gives them something
well the mask I think is unnecesery but the armour looks spectaculer
I love the Gondorian armour too. I love the chain and scale of the Rohan, but we're supposed to like GOndor I suppose, seeing as they're the pinnacle of mankind with their technology ie armour and architecture.
And face masks are a standard thing for any royal guard type role. Covering the eyes is standard practise. It means you can watch everything without anyone knowing where you're looking, and it's an intimidation thing as well.
Notice the Rohan royal guards wore the spectacle helms so you can't see their eyes? And how many security guards nowadays wear sunglasses so you can't see their eyes?
I didn't realize that but it does make perfect sense to me, I also get the impression that these guard are some kind of warrior monks. I know the text with the pic is Dutch so you guys probably can't read it but it states: ''unlike the guard of the tower, the guards of the citadel guard the white tree in the holy belief that it will flourish once again. this text states that PJ made out a real difference between the guard of the tower and the guard of the citadel while in the book these two were one and the same ( the tower guard may well be those with the smaller wings on their helmets and wearing those black mantles lined with a gold trim, they can be seen following denethor while carrying the barrier of Faramir). I don't know for sure but the text that comes with the guard of the citadel raises my belief that these where some kind of seperate grouping, a cult sort of thing. and their elite like status may well explain the fact that their wearing masks as mububban says.
oh so thats what the masks are for
I am quite positive about it too. As far as I am concerned, this is the coolest armour I have ever seen in my life. a go go for PJ.
yes much better then the elven and rohan things
I wonder which culture(s) this armour is based upon, I can't really bring it home, can you?
I was wondering that myself so I went around and looked at some helmet sites and found this..
I think the Gondorian helms might be loosely based off the Barbuta helms like this one:
Thanks vos, Isn't the barbuta italian of origin?
yes the barbuta is italien on the Art of the FOTR book it says gondor was based upon the romans and byzantines
yes I remember that, thanks BZ. could the gondorian culture
be based on byzantium?...it seems to be. If that's the case
I definately have to get myself known with the byzantian culture.
well i know all about it as you can tell and so far from what ive seen it is loosely based on byzantium or so i conclude for example look at the bottom of the warriors of gondor in TTT youll see them wearing a skirt thing thats byzantine based
also when the nazgul flies through osgiliath you can see the ruined dome of the stars. That is either based on hagia sophia or the dome of jupiter in rome
It's a cool scene isn't it, I think Peter Jackson did a fantastic job
capturing the Gondorian culture on screen while he totally messed up on the rohan and elven parts.
I now think it's a real shame I didn't pay a visit to the Jupiter
dome while in Rome a few weeks back.
Hagia sophia is stil open for visiting, 'though.
yes it is i visit it frequently actually but PJ I think really messed up the elven culture though it looks womanly and did you notice aragorns crown it is similar to the crown in my avy that the byz is wearing
I really agree, as far as their armour was concerned: the proloque armour was OK I guess but please don't get me started
about the ttt elvenarmour.
Tolkiens elves where probably the mightiest warriors in the
whole of middle-earth, I didn't really got that impression
when surveiing the elves in elrond's council.
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