christmas is poo

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  1. AlphaAlex

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    just saying.

    Too damn expensive plus too hectic plus too busy. Screw it. Jesus if you ever existed, let us off!

    edit: spelling
     
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  2. Taliesyn

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    I feel your pain. The older I get, the more Christmas loses its shine. It's tragic really. :(
     
  3. Firiath

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    Yes and yes! Christmas is great as long as you're a child - everyone is happy and gives you presents, so it's the best time of the year. But as you said, Eph, it loses its shine - or even becomes annoying.

    There are so many reasons why I don't celebrate Christmas. I'm not Christian (raised a Catholic, celebrated Christmas all my life, though), so why would I celebrate a Christian holiday? Because it's tradition? Screw stupid traditions. Screw having to pretend to be cheerful when you don't feel like it, just because "it's Christmas". Screw wasting money on presents just because "that's what people do for Christmas", or the overindulgence people seem to treat like a duty that is to be fulfilled on Christmas.
     
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    yeah my b-day beats x-mas!
     
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    I'm a Christian and I still don't like it for the most part. My problem is what people have turned it into. My family has always celebrated it for what we believe in on that day. We draw names to exchange presents and put a limit on the money spent. Christmas, for us, is about the birth of Christ, not running to the store to buy everyone everything in sight. Christmas has become, like all holidays, all about the commercialism. Even if you're not Christian it should be a time family and trying to forget your problems, at least for one day, not a panic over money. I tell folks not to do anything for me this time of year because I just can't afford to buy return gifts and really, I don't want anything. That isn't what the holiday is for. It's sad what this and pretty much all holidays have become. Anyway, that's my 10 cents.
     
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    to be frank with you, I love Christmas Eve by Lithuanian tradition... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kūčios (disergerd some shit like "apples" or 'wedding" in that wiki, not everyone does that nonsense)

    in short we are roman catholics, so we are not allowed to eat meat... thus all dishes are fish-based and we have to kinda have at leat 12... one then has to taste all of them...


    I really like that thingy! It's family thing and it's really warm and nice!... Christmas on the other hand for me is just opening persents and ... well watching some x-mas themed shit on TV...

    In general for me my whole life cool stuff in December was like that:

    17th My b-day

    week after 24th Christmas eve

    week after 31st New Year ... and New year was lawyas biggest shit ever in Lithuania! Like craziest night in the whole year (closely followed by Jonines http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St_John's_Eve)
     
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    I think that sounds beautiful, especially how family focused it is. I really like the tradition of preparing a place for the deceased but in a special way. I can see why you would like this so much.
     
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    My family is Orthodox Christian, and really... I like christmas. I still think it's nice, and I still think it's a good holiday. One week away and I can't wait to see what will it be this year. Though I can get your point here, I never really thought about christmas losing it's charm after I stopped being a kid. Hell according to nearly everybody I know, I stopped being a kid when I was 5(They said I was "The most grim son ever")
     
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    Yeah, screw duty. Seriously, I just wanna chill out on Christmas Day. I no longer care what it's about. I used to. Not any more. Being with family is very cool though.

    It absolutely does! :D
     
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    and that's why I love Eph!!!!
     
  11. S.J. Faerlind

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    Awww... sorry to hear everyone's so down about Christmas.
    Though I agree it's become far too commercialized, I still love Christmas. Maybe it's easier to say that because I have little kids in the house and they're super-excited about it, but there it is.
     
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    Nothing wrong with loving Christmas, SJ. In fact, I wish I still did. I'm probably just too cynical for my own good. :D
     
  13. Sparrow

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    Oh c'mon, not the whole "commercialism" complaint again.

    Our economies are based on commerce and we wouldn't be able to pay our bills or even survive without "commercialism". We're all cogs in the machine, deal with it. You can find all kinds of cool things to give as gifts for Christmas if you just look for them. Most of what I'm reading on this thread amounts to sheer laziness.

    I found this very cool, wonderfully illustrated steampunk story in a hard bound edition... I mean look at it, embossed cover with end papers, beautiful artwork and rare. I purchased the octopus art tile from an artist who applied the iron oxide wash at my request... so it's one of a kind! Cost for the book and art tile, $55. Can't beat that. I think my middle niece will like it.

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    ^^That is a very cool-looking book actually, and an old one too I'll bet. Where did you find it?

    My mother got me a really cool book for Christmas two years ago:

    http://www.amazon.ca/Untamed-Garden...1387500847&sr=1-1&keywords=the+untamed+garden

    I've never seen a book that was formatted more perfectly for publication....everything from the fonts, to the paper it was printed on, to the artwork and paintings within it was carefully chosen to fit the subject of the book. The whole effect was stunning.
    What was even more stunning was that my mother had no idea what it was actually about. She knew I liked to garden, so she bought it for me. I read it, loved it and lmao over it. :D
     
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    The 'Walking Your Octopus' is new, just looks old... very short print run though, so if you're going to get a copy you should do it quick.:)
    Got it at Amazon... being that it's a gift I almost wanted to keep it. I've since ordered two more, one for me and another I'll give to someone. It's by Brian Kesinger... he's a long time Disney animator and artist. It's amazing, filled with exceptional art and a whimsical story.

    It's nice that Amazon doesn't only carry the mass market stuff, they have some real treasures if you're willing to search for them. It just proves that even in the Digital Age there's still incredible books being published for our bookshelves.:)
     
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    Seeing those books I can totally understand the (potential) magic of gift giving. But I don't see why the giving and receiving of gifts has to be forced onto one holiday instead of just doing it whenever we feel like it. As a kid I often spent my pocket money on little gifts I got for my mother, just because I enjoyed giving them to her.

    The (or rather: my) problem with Christmas gifts is that there's often no creativity in it. In the past couple of years my mother has always asked me and my brothers what we wanted for Christmas. We made a list (often directly on Amazon), gave/sent it to her and she ordered it, done. And vice versa. And until this year I really liked it like that, I mean, you get stuff for free, who doesn't like that?
    But this year I realised that this tradition has lost all of its magic for me, so I don't want to follow it any longer. Still, my mother insisted she'd get me presents, because that's what we've always done (and that is the only reason - she's an atheist and doesn't give a damn about the holiday itself), and she said if I refused to accept her gifts or didn't tell her what I wanted she'd give me money instead. So now I had the problem: What do I get her? What do I get someone who has everything? I got her a GoT coffee mug saying "Khaleesi". Yep, very imaginative. And that is exactly what I had been trying to avoid.

    Okay, before I keep writing, let me say: I'm not writing this to rant or to complain, I just wanted to share why I'm not a big fan of Christmas. And I don't want to keep anyone from enjoying his/her Christmas celebration! If Christmas hasn't lost its magic for you, no matter whether it's because of your kids or nieces and nephews or just because you like it, I hope you'll all have a merry Christmas :) And for those who don't celebrate Christmas and/or are Grinches like me: Don't worry! It will be over soon! :D
     
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    See? Everybody wins! Whether they celebrate it or not! :D
     
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    And that's what it should be, the "magic of gift giving"... giving someone a gift that's interesting and memorable, so it has meaning. You said it, there should be some creativity involved or it's not personal, if not, it turns Christmas and giving into little more than an exchange of money... or gift cards.

    For us guys, well, we're suppose to get you women jewelry. I hate it! But still, you can find a way to do even that with some imagination. Years ago I got my girlfriend at the time a real de a ocho, better known as a piece of eight... you know, "pirate treasure".:) It's was from a Dutch trader that sunk off the coast of South Africa in the late 1600s... I took the old silver coin that had spent hundreds of years at the bottom of the sea with the bones of dead seamen to a jeweler, and had him put a clasp on it and turn it into a pendant necklace. She loved it, and who wouldn't... it's romantic as hell.
     
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    It definitely is! That sounds pretty much like one of the coolest pieces of jewellery you could get for a woman, or actually for anyone :D
     
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    Good to know...I'll have to look it up. Thanks :)

    Gift-giving simply out of a sense of obligation is always a chore and if I was to be totally honest I'd say that there's just no way of completely escaping that at Christmas. It's not how it should be, but that's reality. Still, there's always at least one special gift that I'm absolutely thrilled to have found for somebody ...kinda like Sparrow's Octopus book find. Sometimes it's even something home-made. As an example I once gave my hubby a handwritten book of short stories that I wrote specifically for him for Christmas and I could hardly wait for him to open it.
    On the other hand, I think that I sometimes worry too much that the recipient of a gift won't like something I pick out. I dare not get certain people anything but a gift card for that reason. I also know someone who loves to shop so she gets a gift card because she loves browsing the possibilities more than she likes receiving anything ... lol.

    <3 this post!