Tur and Screensurfer, you're both too deep in thought to answer this correctly: This is a thread about Christianity, that's why. In a thread about Hinduism, we could all nag about that. Simple I believe that is a statistic you just made up?! Maybe our countries are too different, but every priest I met says he believes. Sure, tehre are those who claim to know - but there are as many 'believers' who know that God exists as there are atheists who know that God doesn't exist. See above for that. If we take the average Christian and the average atheist, they both believe. So both have a positive truth value - and my choice of words (claim) before was wrong. We are born with religion as we are born with our language. It's not genetically programmed, but we normally grow up with one view of the world and one native language. And as we grow older, we can learn more languages, change our believes - but the original language, the original belief, still shaped us in a way. We can get rid of it, never speak the language again, don't believe in that religion anymore, but the knowledge about it is still there. And 'of course' religion is something people change (like a haircut). We decide what to believe. And if you chose not to believe in anything other than what you see and what is already proven, then you just made a different decision than the lad that sits beside you and prays. But both decisions have the same value. And they're both about religion. Wether to believe or not. It's about the same scale I had. I can really not see such a huge diference. There are extremists on both sides. But I really don't think most religious people in the US are strong atheists. That would be kinda scary. As scary as strong atheists would be, btw. Well, over here I guess most would say they're weak theists, or agnostics. As sorry as I am to say this: Foinikas is not the ultimate representative of Christianity. Don't judge an entire religion based on one guy you met online. The bible is but a book. And it can be read many different ways. It's not the words in there that define who we are, but the way people understand and use these words. There are those who read 'help your neighbour' and who place an emphasis on that part of the book. And there are those who read 'tremple down thy enemy' and think that that is the ultimate message the book has. The bible is a book, as is the quran, as is the tanakh... They don't speak, they don't tell you what to think, they open up possibilities and people define themselves by chosing what to take from it and what not to. What kind of sick and despicable morals are you talking about? I for once was never taught that gays are evil. And I too, just as Foi, grew up Christian. Maybe then it's not so much the religion that makes me different from Foi, but probably the cultural background and personal choice, does it not?