Chainmail - general discussion

Discussion in 'General Weapons & Armour' started by mormegil, Jan 8, 2004.

  1. mormegil

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    k, i need some tips on making chain mail. I am currently at the point where i need to decide if it is best to proceed down the front and back of the shirt then connect them with the sides, or to connect the sides now and proceed down the torso in one complete ring. i was going to make it in two parts, a shoulder part and torso part and join them, but i have found that with a 6 in 1 pattern it is difficult to join two vertical pieces due to the overlaping layers. if i was to start over i think it would be best to start at the bottom of the shirt and work your way up but i could see some problems that way to. any body have any tips?
     
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    Re: chain mail help

    Ask the people at www.ringlord.com they are really help full and know thier stuff!!!
     
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    Re: chain mail help

    how I am doing it is making two big ones that match, then I will make 4 arms that match, so then I will have two pieces, each one t shaped, then I will lay them together. Since they are identical I will just connect the rings.
     
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    Re: chain mail help

    Just curious what type of wire are you guys using? And what gauge?

    I would just connect them. It may be difficult with the 6 in 1... but it all looks the same anyways.
     
  5. mormegil

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    Re: chain mail help

    i am using 14 gauge galvanized wire in a 6 in 1 pattern. i made a jig to spin it into rings with about a 3/8 inside diameter. i think i am going to just do it down the front and back and then join them at the bottom and work my way up the sides.
     
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    Re: chain mail help

    What kind of wire cutters are you using? Right now im only experimenting and i think i need a different kind of cutters. They begin to cut staright but after the cut, htey leave a sharp point on the end. I managed to make a bracelet, but every once and a while a link will break off because the link doesnt fully connect.
     
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    Re: chain mail help

    You can't really go wrong with (mini)bolt-cutters. Make sure you got one where the blades are alligned perfectly (or get knipex, they are über). I'm going to get one some day soon, using end nippers now. They have good leverage (but not as good as bolt-cutters). I have a really tiny end nipper for my small wire, it has a spring making sure that the cutters open back up after cutting; that's very nice if you have to cut large amounts. I used to use aviation snips. Good cut, but tough going on the hands. Also if you use those the wire not only opens up but gets a bit of a twist. So I stopped using those, I decided having a pinch cut instead of a semi-flush / shear cut is not so bad. I'm thinking about getting pre-made rings with flush cuts but I can't find a good supplier in Holland.
     
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    Re: chain mail help

    My chainamil is constantly falling apart. So i need to buy some good cutters and start new.
     
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    Boy i hope that isnt a common problem. if i got the whole think done and it kept falling apart i would be pissed. i just use mini bolt cutters. i thought about soddering the joints but then i realised that would take the rest of my adult life, lol.
     
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    Re: chain mail help

    has anyone here ever made a habuarke (excuse spelling) with a 6 in 1 pattern? i read a thing that with a 4 in one pattern it would way about 45 lbs. well would a 6 in 1 be half again as much? if so i am looking at a shirt that will weigh about 70 lbs!!!
     
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    Re: chain mail help

    I'd say that has to do with the thickness to ringdiameter ratio, not with what kind of cutters you cut the wire? How about making smaller rings, or same size as now but with a thicker wire?
     
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    Re: chain mail help

    As I sit here weaving chain mail, very exciting hobby zzzzzzz. I believe you heard wrong. I am using 14 gauge wire in a 3/8 diameter and using the 4 to 1 weave and I've been on sites that claim a haubrek in this configuratin to wiegh in the 24 lbs. area
     
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    Re: chain mail help

    hopefully 4 in 1 is only 24 lbs. that actually sounds better to me cause i am at about 12 lbs with most of the front done.
     
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    Re: chain mail help

    Go to this web site http://www.dcwireworks.com/armor/armor.html
    They show pics of finished work and give wieghts and all info on the piece.

    Whay size rings and guage steel are you using? I've decided that after this one I'm buying rings from now on!!!!!!!:)
     
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    Re: chain mail help

    Super awesome net purge time!
     
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    Re: chain mail help

    thanks tawnos. ya i am way to far along to even think about starting over with a 4 in 1 pattern. 50-60 lbs is going to be pretty heavy, but i am a big guy so hopefully its allright, its not as if i am going into battle with it, lol. i havent had any prob with rings falling apart, someone else mentioned it, but my closures i think are pretty good, its just a scary prospect that someone brought up.
     
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    Re: chain mail help

    Yeh, the problem with mine is that the wire is realy old. The cutters are not the right kind and im not paying attention most of the time. It was more of a test to see if it would work.
     
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    Re: chain mail help

    i was thinking last night, how do you all think it would look if the torso section is 6 in 1 then the sleeves and "skirt" (for lack of a better term) were 4 in 1? i plan on making a full haulberk sleeves and down to almost the knees so this would save time and weight, but i dont want it to look stupid either.
     
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    Re: chain mail help

    I no longer exist
     
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