Australian law change. Refugee's

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  1. JIM

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    true refuges ok let them in. Boat people trying to get it easy can fuck off.

    It's a bit sad where this country is going. I agree with somethings but can't understand others. Illuminati? lol
     
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    this is one of those things we're not going to see eye to eye on, so rather than fight i'll just say boatpeople are refugees. we don't get to say mary can come in cause she went through the UN refugee camp, but fuck joe cause he fled the country by boat using a people smuggler.
    if shit's going down here, you wouldn't pay to protect yourself and your family?
     
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    what i find ridiculous, underhanded and evil, is the way they got it passed.....
    having children, held illegally in "detention centres" call a senator and beg him to vote for a bill so they can be released, is downright (insert swear). where i come from that is blackmail, plain and simple.
     
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    I'm unsure at what the future holds for australia, it just seems to be going downhill a bit, so many changes happening wonder what we'll end up with when this is all over :confused:
     
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    Perhaps we wont agree Jim so let's not argue. I'll just say what I feel and you can dislike If you want.

    I agree with kids being held is evil Jim however, I 'm just sick of people coming here apparently escaping their lives because they were scared for their lives where they lived. Then they come here and are put in camps and then commit suicide because of the way they are treated! I mean come on! Escape a war-torn country to come here and off yourself after been given a roof over your head and food? Seems rather hypocritical to me! If i was in a country that was at war and i had nothing, I'd gladly live in a camp because I'd have a roof over my head and food everyday. The true refugees dont complain and are happy to be alive. The others (the ones that complain) should be sent back. Plus do you realize boat people get more money from the government than retired Australians!? Even war veterans. Now dont get me wrong, I'm not racist or anti multicultural. However I'm sick of free-loaders and quite a few of there boat people think they can be.
    I'm not a bad person and I want the world to come together as one but, some people are after the easy way out at the expense of others.

    I'll leave it at that.
     
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    those figures include the detention centre costs and are therefore unreliable. they include the cost of coastal patrols for our "fleet" and costs of towbacks averaged out over the number of refugees. don't believe the murdoch press
     
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    I'm first generation American... my mom and dad immigrated to the USA six weeks before I was born because they wanted the best for me, and that meant that I was to be an American.
    If my parents were Mexican or of latino origin, they would be looked down upon for doing such a thing, and probably would not have been allowed legally into the States. But because my parents were Scottish/Canadian it was rather easy for them.

    When we're talking about immigration, taking in refugees, it turns out that there's a lot of racism about. We don't say it outright, but that's what it is, and I'm guilty of it too. To be honest with you, I would gladly kick out these Americans who've lost their spirit of goodwill and charity, and trade them for refugees and immigrants who want nothing more than a new start in a better place.

    “Give me your tired, your poor,
    Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
    The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
    Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed, to me:
    I lift my lamp beside the golden door.”

    -Emma Lazarus
     
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    sparrow, i would have given multiple likes if i could
     
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    Thanks Jim... I think it comes down to empathy and walking a mile in someone's shoes, or my favorite quote from the book 'To Kill a Mockingbird', when Atticus Finch is teaching his daughter an important lesson... "First of all," he said, "if you can learn a simple trick, Scout, you'll get along a lot better with all kinds of folks. You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view… until you climb into his skin and walk around in it."

    We're all immigrants and strangers, best to put up with one another best we can.:eek:
     
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    i have been told i do not feel empathy, only sympathy, for me its a simple matter of right and wrong
     
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    Congratulations, Australia! You've become the lucky winner of national autonomy from the United Socialist Dictatorships Nations!

    Seriously, Australia's north has been absolutely ravaged for decades by waves of 'asylum seekers'. It's nearly as deplorable as the State's situations with its southern border. Thank God someone had the common sense to stand up to the UN, would love to see others follow suit. Granted, the Minister used a blunt instrument, but he's proven himself a problem solver. Was skeptical of the "Coalition", figured they were sort of the equivalent of the Tories, soft-center-left at best with a do-nothing, going-nowhere-fast type of policy and attitude. Pleasantly surprised here.
     
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    If I run away from my wifey, would I be considered a refugee? ;)
     
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    Since you wouldn't receive sympathy from cultural Marxists, and certainly not from anti-white SJWs, y'know, with your white male privilege and all... Probably not.
     
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    Yes, the world has become such a dark, angry place for us straight white guys. Just here to give dear RayCaptain another wake up call... "Straight White Male", is the lowest difficulty setting there is.


    I’ve been thinking of a way to explain to straight white men how life works for them, without invoking the dreaded word “privilege,” to which they react like vampires being fed a garlic tart at high noon. It’s not that the word “privilege” is incorrect, it’s that it’s not their word. When confronted with “privilege,” they fiddle with the word itself, and haul out the dictionaries and find every possible way to talk about the word but not any of the things the word signifies.

    So, the challenge: how to get across the ideas bound up in the word “privilege,” in a way that your average straight white man will get, without freaking out about it?

    Being a white guy who likes women, here’s how I would do it:

    Dudes. Imagine life here in the US — or indeed, pretty much anywhere in the Western world — is a massive role playing game, like World of Warcraft except appallingly mundane, where most quests involve the acquisition of money, cell phones and donuts, although not always at the same time. Let’s call it The Real World. You have installed The Real World on your computer and are about to start playing, but first you go to the settings tab to bind your keys, fiddle with your defaults, and choose the difficulty setting for the game. Got it?

    Okay: In the role playing game known as The Real World, “Straight White Male” is the lowest difficulty setting there is.

    This means that the default behaviors for almost all the non-player characters in the game are easier on you than they would be otherwise. The default barriers for completions of quests are lower. Your leveling-up thresholds come more quickly. You automatically gain entry to some parts of the map that others have to work for. The game is easier to play, automatically, and when you need help, by default it’s easier to get.

    Now, once you’ve selected the “Straight White Male” difficulty setting, you still have to create a character, and how many points you get to start — and how they are apportioned — will make a difference. Initially the computer will tell you how many points you get and how they are divided up. If you start with 25 points, and your dump stat is wealth, well, then you may be kind of screwed. If you start with 250 points and your dump stat is charisma, well, then you’re probably fine. Be aware the computer makes it difficult to start with more than 30 points; people on higher difficulty settings generally start with even fewer than that.

    As the game progresses, your goal is to gain points, apportion them wisely, and level up. If you start with fewer points and fewer of them in critical stat categories, or choose poorly regarding the skills you decide to level up on, then the game will still be difficult for you. But because you’re playing on the “Straight White Male” setting, gaining points and leveling up will still by default be easier, all other things being equal, than for another player using a higher difficulty setting.

    Likewise, it’s certainly possible someone playing at a higher difficulty setting is progressing more quickly than you are, because they had more points initially given to them by the computer and/or their highest stats are wealth, intelligence and constitution and/or simply because they play the game better than you do. It doesn’t change the fact you are still playing on the lowest difficulty setting.

    You can lose playing on the lowest difficulty setting. The lowest difficulty setting is still the easiest setting to win on. The player who plays on the “Gay Minority Female” setting? Hardcore.

    And maybe at this point you say, hey, I like a challenge, I want to change my difficulty setting! Well, here’s the thing: In The Real World, you don’t unlock any rewards or receive any benefit for playing on higher difficulty settings. The game is just harder, and potentially a lot less fun. And you say, okay, but what if I want to replay the game later on a higher difficulty setting, just to see what it’s like? Well, here’s the other thing about The Real World: You only get to play it once. So why make it more difficult than it has to be? Your goal is to win the game, not make it difficult.

    Oh, and one other thing. Remember when I said that you could choose your difficulty setting in The Real World? Well, I lied. In fact, the computer chooses the difficulty setting for you. You don’t get a choice; you just get what gets given to you at the start of the game, and then you have to deal with it.

    So that’s “Straight White Male” for you in The Real World (and also, in the real world): The lowest difficulty setting there is. All things being equal, and even when they are not, if the computer — or life — assigns you the “Straight White Male” difficulty setting, then brother, you’ve caught a break.

    - John Scalzi (Science Fiction Writer)
     
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    Poor baby.
    All these horrible brown people, and black, and yellow, and the lesbian feminists, the godless unwashed masses washing up on our shores year after year. What's a white guy to do?

    Young white men in America; Scared, Entitled, and Cynical
     
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    First and foremost, I'd like to sincerely thank Sparrow, our lovely, local left-wing voice. Like I said, sincerely. Because you, my friend, are the only one with the brass to express your bare chested anti-white racism while also throwing in negative generalizations based on sexuality and gender, a hat trick! ^_^ Others just quietly give themselves a pat on the back for hating those mean-old white men :'(

    Anyway, yeah, no, there are national borders and stuff, so I don't reckon you can just 'wash up on my shores'. Wait in line, learn my culture, my country's history, learn my language, have a skill that's useful to my country, and maybe we'll let you in if you ask nicely. No nation should serve as a lactating mammary for whomever decides they want a suckle because 'mah oppression!'.