And Jackson Is.......

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  1. FireSnake

    FireSnake Bhaal Spawn

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    counts:
    one: not guilty
    two: not guilty
    three: not guilty
    four: not guilty
    five: not guilty
    six: not guilty
    seven: not guilty
    eight: not guilty
    nine: not guilty lesser offense not guilty
    ten: not guilty lesser offense not guilty
     
  2. Adina

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    Is that the real results?
     
  3. Jessehk

    Jessehk The introverted

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  4. Adina

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    Thanks for the update!

    All I can say is...wow.

    If he truly is guilty, I feel for those kids. If not, well, good on him.
     
  5. Anduril

    Anduril Flame of the West

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    I can't believe he's innocent. He says that he sleeps in the same bed as the children but that nothing "sexual" happens. I say it's rubbish.
     
  6. Lady_of_Shalott

    Lady_of_Shalott Weaving the Magic Web

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    I hadn't really paid much attention to the case, but they interrupted Jeapordy to cover it. :mad: :D

    But can you believe all the people standing outside? Sheesh, what a waste of time.
     
  7. Mububban

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    Parents do it all the time. So do grandparents, cousins, big brothers and sisters etc. And kids are more likely to be assaulted by a family member than a stranger.

    I'm not saying he's not a Grade A freaky weirdo, and I honestly don't know if he's a kiddy fiddler or just an old dude stuck in a time warp coz he was never allowed to have a normal childhood, but just this morning my boss was talking about how his granddaughter crawled into bed with him and his wife for an early morning cuddle. I didn't accuse him of molesting the child, and nor did I demand millions of dollars not to go to the press.

    I wonder if we'll ever find the real truth in a case like this.
     
  8. Turambar

    Turambar Harebrained Staff Member

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    Innocent untill proven guilty...

    Really, following the evidence presented, I'd say the verdict should be not guilty. The case presented wasn't THAT strong and testimonies were quite contradictory every now and again. Besides, the jury taking it's time was already a good sign for Jackson, since with increasing doubt, the evidence proofs not to be strong enough. If there is too much doubt, the only right way is to send the man home...

    "This jury finds x not guilty based upon evidence presented"

    Doesn't mean he's innocent, though...

    But it's not over now... the prosecuter promised an appeal. We'll see...
     
  9. Liadan

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    As Adina said... if he IS guilty, eeeeeeeeeeew. And if he isn't, good for him.

    Of course, if he is guilty, my reaction's gonna be big. But that might be because I'm fairly close in age to those kids...
     
  10. Anduril

    Anduril Flame of the West

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    True Mubabban. But I think you know from where I'm coming.
     
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    Oh of course. It certainly isn't normal by any stretch of the imagination for a 40 year old guy to have young boys who aren't family sleep in his bed. Even if it is completely innocent, the general public won't think that it is. It's just setting yourself up for trouble.

    I think one of his lawyers said "He needs to change his lifestyle." I guess we wait and see if he continues to have kids over to Neverland Ranch, or if he becomes a total recluse now.

    But I still can't believe the parents who let their kids stay over, without supervision, after allegations of abuse kept being made. Innocent or not, just the hint that someone might be up to no good should set off alarm bells for parents. Once again, society's fascination with celebrities overrules common sense.
     
  12. kartaron

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    Two jurors who acquitted Michael Jackson of child molestation charges now say they think the pop star was guilty - and they are penning tell-all books about the jury's deliberations, the Daily News has learned.

    "Guilty As Sin, Free as a Bird" is the title of 79-year-old Eleanor Cook's tome, according to Larry Garrison, president of Silver Creek Entertainment.

    He will co-write the book with Cook's granddaughter.

    And Ray Hultman, 62, will pen "The Deliberator" along with former Jackson family friend and author Stacy Brown. She co-wrote the successful "The Man Behind The Mask" with Jackson's former publicist Bob Jones.

    "These books are going to rock the nation," said Garrison, a film and TV producer.

    "Elly and Ray are two of the three jurors who [initially] voted for 'guilty'" Garrison said, referring to the early balloting in the jury's deliberation process.

    Garrison declined to identify the third juror he said initially voted to convict the pop star.

    On June 13, after 32 hours of deliberation over seven days, 12 jurors voted unanimously to acquit Jackson of charges he molested a 13-year-old cancer survivor after plying the boy with alcohol.

    Ironically, in interviews immediately after the verdict, Cook fervently supported the verdicts, and she openly mocked the accuser's wacky mother, whose trial testimony was punctuated with annoying finger snaps.

    "Don't snap your fingers at me, lady!" Cook said at post-verdict press conference where jurors explained why they acquitted Jackson.

    Most said they felt the family had credibility problems and the evidence was weak.

    Garrison declined to reveal what went on in the jury room or why Hultman, Cook and the third juror changed their votes from guilty to not guilty.

    "The jurors had made a pact to stick together" and not talk about what went on in the jury room, Garrison said.

    But after several jurors appeared on CNN's "Larry King Live," Hultman and Cook felt "that was it" and decided to reveal the inside scoop, Garrison said.

    A film about the Jackson jurors' experiences is also in the works, Garrison said.

    AP / NY Daily News

    If I ever go to trial for anything, Id rather rely on a judge than take a chance of getting a jury like this.
     
  13. Adina

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    Money, money and more money. These people would sell their own souls if they could.
     
  14. Jessehk

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    Just a ploy to ride the media wave and make some money.
     
  15. Mububban

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    Therein lies the problem of being judged by a jury of "your peers." My grilfriend did jury duty, and she reckons there were her, one guy and one other woman with a brain in their head, and the others were hand picked fools who couldn't see the blatant facts of the case. So the guy got off.

    I also hope I'd get a judge and not a jury too if I ever go to trial for something. Joe Public ain't too smart.
     
  16. World builder 316

    World builder 316 Ceasar of the Hobos

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    Same here ^^^. I've seen too many stupid people to want to be judged by my "peers".