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Discussion in 'Every Day Debating' started by Bard, Nov 19, 2005.

  1. Dwimmerlaik

    Dwimmerlaik Captain of Despair

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    yes, a lot of members seem to do that to me. lol.
     
  2. Fox

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    That's how I feel Padme. :)
     
  3. am.dk

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    year i must agry whit fox here.
    it was nesessery to remove sadam from hes terror reschime to maintain a global world order.
    we can always discuse about was it the right ore the wrong way to do it.
     
  4. Cascador

    Cascador Who's Anakin?

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    I'm still a little sceptical about saddam....and I dont think he lied when they said they tortured him...maybe he deserves it, but it just isn't right...
     
  5. Dwimmerlaik

    Dwimmerlaik Captain of Despair

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    well i would probally torture him, but would kill him in the process. BUT HE FULLY DESEVRES IT, I GUESS ANAKIN DIDNT SEE WHAT HE DID TO HIS PEOPLE, SO I THINK HE FULLLY DESERVES IT. ALL THE WAY.
     
  6. Bard

    Bard Erchamion

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    I'd put him down if it came to a dark room with only me and him and I had a few devices that would cause tremendous pain. If he deserved being messed up a bit, then I'm all for it.
     
  7. Cascador

    Cascador Who's Anakin?

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    I know what he did...and I didnt say he doesn't deserve it...but the people who did it, don't stand above the law....so it's wrong...
     
  8. Mububban

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    Yeah, torture is one of those cases of "how far are you willing to compromise your country's beliefs, in order to protect them?" (paraphrased from Munich)
     
  9. Bard

    Bard Erchamion

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    Yes I see what you mean Anakin. Those with a badge(or gun) should not abuse their responsibilites, because they feel it is right. That is why there is due process.
     
  10. Padmé

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    Very well said!
     
  11. Dwimmerlaik

    Dwimmerlaik Captain of Despair

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    all i can say now, is that i am a american citizen, so what is not to like.
     
  12. Anduril

    Anduril Flame of the West

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    America has to be very careful. God has certainly blessed us. I don't think it's fair to say that America has been given such great power, freedoms, and responsibilities simply because of our own strength and abilities. That's why we can't get cocky, especially with people like Osama Bin Laden in the world. When I think of America, I think of Luke 12:48b Everyone to whom much was given, of him much will be required, and from him to whom they entrusted much, they will demand the more.
     
  13. Bard

    Bard Erchamion

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    Yes that's a good quote Anduril.
     
  14. Bard

    Bard Erchamion

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    Congratulations man! I should have gone to imigrations with you... :)
     
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    yeah, it was a actully better time then science and lit.

    i agree anduril
     
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    I agree with Anakin:
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    Well I'm not an American citicen, but I am againt death and torture.
    To kill saddam means to be on one level with him. So there's no reason, because death can be salvation.
    You know what I mean.
     
  17. Turambar

    Turambar Harebrained Staff Member

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    Sorry, but I find this a quite desturbing assumption. So God... blessed America, which gives them more responsibility? I thought we have been past this station for a while... or hoped I was. Rome ruled with devine favour and responsibility for millenia. And look what they brought to the world. Crusades. Inquisitions... all in the name of God.

    I think that this is exactly what the Muslim world fights against. They don't want to be ruled (or influenced) by a Nation that claims world supremacy on the basis of a competing religion. Imagine Saudi-Arabia being the pinacle of technology, telling the US what and what not to do. Would you guys stand up for yourself?

    This war is forsaken. I plead nutrality and withdraw from the battlefield.
     
  18. Cascador

    Cascador Who's Anakin?

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    well said...
     
  19. Dwimmerlaik

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    it shows you have no cause to fight for, you opinion is why fight when you dont have to.
     
  20. Running Wolf

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    yes, well said.
    This war got futile, if it has ever been reasonable.
    And yes, why fight when you don't have to? War is often a waste of human lifes and you only should fight if there is a reason and this war has lost his actual reason.