A plea for stricter verification new members

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  1. Turambar

    Turambar Harebrained Staff Member

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    Dear all,

    It appears that we're completely outspammed by those who want to sell their nifty electronics at best - or, mor likely, those who try to scam us out of our hard-earned local currency of choice.

    As I imagine, this is a nuisance for us regular members but, no doubt, a burden to those who need to tidy things up again.

    Now, from what I understand, there already is a system in place to discourage these spammers in the true sense of the word. No doubt, they will discourage new members to join as well. However, it appears that the current system is slowly failing.

    Still, I want to make a plea for stricter measures to keep those spammers out. I don't know what measures vBulletin offers. Maybe we would need a more personal version of verification, in which a member (mod or admin) goes through the applications? I don't know. It seems that this indeed might induce less work than actually removing tresspassers by hand.

    Regardless, it appears something needs to happen.
     
  2. Lego

    Lego God amongst men

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    I reported a thread but nothing seems to happened.
     
  3. Running Wolf

    Running Wolf Join the Madness

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    Where's the 'like' button? I agree with Tur.
    Maybe only as a temporary measure? Maybe this wave of spambots goes away?
     
  4. Overread

    Overread Wolfing it up! Staff Member

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    might just be that we need a code update somewhere to end the tide --

    unless


    they've


    abducted sky!??!!
     
  5. Turambar

    Turambar Harebrained Staff Member

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    I think Sky and Nik are snowed in in a Dakota cabin.

    Undoubtably, it's cozy in there :p



    Regardless, maybe the power to remove such threads need to spread among trusted Mods/members so that the cleaning capacity would increase.
     
  6. Nienor

    Nienor Administrator Staff Member

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    Nik has a brand new baby and has moved thirty threads today. Leave her alone. :p


    I'll ask Skyanide about it. He's more technical than I am. I really have no ideas on how to stop the spamming members.
     
  7. Skyanide

    Skyanide The Big Meanie Staff Member

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    Unfortunately, I have little control over the spam situation; when the new owner took over the site I was "locked out" of various more "sensitive" areas of the board. In addition, because both the owner and I are both Admins, we don't get all the reported post notifications because he opted my group out of getting them.

    So short of spending all my free time chasing spammers, this will be the status quo for the time being. I am weighing the possibility of adding a few moderators and removing a few non-active ones.
     
  8. Turambar

    Turambar Harebrained Staff Member

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    What? You have a life? :eek:

    You know, it's hard to say whether the current admins/mods don't have the time to do the cleaning anymore - or that there's a particular insurgence of these chinese farmers active the last few days. It felt like it might be the latter.

    I don't think it particularly matter whether they're removed now or a few days after. They just [censored] me off, that's all.
     
  9. Anakin

    Anakin King of TFF

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    Well I see these all the time and report them so much, that I must work on your nerves lol. All I'm saying is that if you want someone else to deal with it.... Well I'm not going to ask, but I wouldn't mind to get rid of these nuisances, myself
     
  10. Overread

    Overread Wolfing it up! Staff Member

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    Don't listen to him - his the ruling monarchy - give him actual power and he'll go insane!
    First the spambots - then he'll declare war on other sites!!!
     
  11. Turambar

    Turambar Harebrained Staff Member

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    Haha, I wonder what Yoda would say about that. There's always something leading to suffering. Why not mod powers? ^^
     
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    Mod powers should be carefully given...





    TO ME MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
    *cough*
    yeah >.>
    :p
     
  13. Mububban

    Mububban Administrator Staff Member

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    Hahaha, I too find myself going through life now wishing there was a "Like" button for many things :D

    I have less time at the moment for regular TFF time, however I do get the notification emails so thankyou to everyone who takes the time to report. Sometimes I have time to do them straight away, other times I don't.


    Sky and I were talking last night about a one-step process delete posts as spam and permaban the poster rather than the current long-winded method of moving posts, then banning the user. However I agree that this will only fix the symptoms, not the cause.

    I haven't signed up recently - maybe one of those image-based verification things might help? Don't ask me, I just mod here :D
     
  14. Anakin

    Anakin King of TFF

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    Well any solution, how small it is, is good, as long as it is in the best interest of the forum. And maybe what you say doesn't fix the cause, but it does sound it would make your job a whole lot better. Maybe only hope you don't accidentally click it when you want to reply though lol
     
  15. AlphaAlex

    AlphaAlex Official Forum Nuisance

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    I agree, but until new forum software comes out, spambots will bend and twist like bendy twisty things and get around such restrictions. Like the admins have already said its hard to stop them. I once owned a forum believe it or not. I never got spammed that often but no matter what you do spambots win eventually. Sad fact of life.


    oh and ski, I'll be a mod heh....
     
  16. Skyanide

    Skyanide The Big Meanie Staff Member

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    There is an image verification, as well as an "anti-Spam" question. I even recently changed the question.

    So chances are these are real people not bots and there's not much you can do when someone real joins to spam.
     
  17. Anakin

    Anakin King of TFF

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    You can still block them, maybe not permanently, but still....
     
  18. Mububban

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    Based on the posts I've been moving, I thought it seemed more human than bot too. Which of course is impossible to guard against. They sign up, make their 3-4 posts, then never come back.
     
  19. Anakin

    Anakin King of TFF

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    So there's no such rules that a member can be banned if their sole purpose is to promote things like we've seen so recently? Then I do think harder rules are necessary.
     
  20. Turambar

    Turambar Harebrained Staff Member

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    Is there an IP ban functionality either in VB or at the host's?

    I would assume that TFF is on the shortlist of a few spamming gangs, which may or may not operate from one or a few IP adresses or ranges.