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The Man from Niefldarth 01-03-2005 07:15 PM

For knowers of the languages in LotR
 
I'm on the process of making a dagger, and I would like to engrave something on the blade who would say: Dark whisper is my name. All ye who encounter my blade, abandon hope. :devilbat:

The thing is: I would like to write it in Valarin, but I don't find any site with a english/valarin dictionnary. Could someone help me?

If I don't find anything, I will write it in black speech or Sindarin, but I prefere Valarin.

thank you! :)

Elan Morin Tedronai 01-03-2005 07:57 PM

Re: For knowers of the languages in LotR
 
I very much doubt you'll find Valarin. I don't think Tolkien even worked it out, he just wrote that their was one. Your best bet is to go with Sindarin. Try http://www.councilofelrond.com for some Sindarin phrases, and you could ask their for help, or even do their language courses if you're truly dedicated.

Bard 01-03-2005 08:06 PM

Re: For knowers of the languages in LotR
 
A Dwarvish runic design would be cool on a blade, or a Viking design, though they are very similar.

The Man from Niefldarth 01-03-2005 08:56 PM

Re: For knowers of the languages in LotR
 
Elan-> thanks for the link. Maybe sindarin is better than valarin, after all...
Beren-> I thought of a runic design, I have a book on those northern-german pictographs but I think they aren't as decorative as Tengwar script.

Sorcha 01-03-2005 08:57 PM

Re: For knowers of the languages in LotR
 
http://tolkien.cro.net/mearth/tolklang/valarin.html <<<< here's the only site I've seen with it. I would think quenya would be your best bet. :)

The Man from Niefldarth 01-03-2005 09:03 PM

Re: For knowers of the languages in LotR
 
Thank you sorcha, but I think i'll do with sindarin. after all, isn't sindarin the language of Nobles? :)

Sorcha 01-03-2005 09:14 PM

Re: For knowers of the languages in LotR
 
Oooo...I thought it was quenya...must look that up....

Ah, here we go...http://www.councilofelrond.com/modul...id=&pn_id=6602

Quenya, it says was the language of the Valar. Also called High Elven. :)

Here is the article on Sindarin: http://www.councilofelrond.com/modul...id=&pn_id=6667

The Man from Niefldarth 01-03-2005 09:43 PM

Re: For knowers of the languages in LotR
 
I found a great online translator! http://www.jrrvf.com/hisweloke/sindar/

So I don't know if it is right, but it gave me: Nīn esta-doll ihoss. Awartha-estel, ai govanno-nīn hathol

thanks to everyone! :)

curunir's bane 01-03-2005 09:58 PM

Re: For knowers of the languages in LotR
 
I'm book marking this whole page.

Elan, where are the elvish courses on your link?

The Man from Niefldarth 01-03-2005 10:10 PM

Re: For knowers of the languages in LotR
 
curunir-> I think you have to suscribe...

curunir's bane 01-03-2005 10:35 PM

Re: For knowers of the languages in LotR
 
Balrog, do you know if it costs any money or anything to subscribe?

curunir's bane 01-03-2005 10:46 PM

Re: For knowers of the languages in LotR
 
Nevermind I see that it doesn't take any money.

The Man from Niefldarth 01-03-2005 10:53 PM

Re: For knowers of the languages in LotR
 
I didn't suscribe, anyway, so I wouldn't be able to help you...

If you want to follow courses on quenya, you should go to that website: http://www.uib.no/People/hnohf/

Sorcha 01-03-2005 11:10 PM

Re: For knowers of the languages in LotR
 
It doesn't cost anything. The workbooks on CoE are excellent...I'm studying them myself. I didn't know you had to register...it didn't used to be that way.

The Man from Niefldarth 01-03-2005 11:11 PM

Re: For knowers of the languages in LotR
 
How good are you?


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